J-31/J-35 Engine

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 06 May 2021, 07:08

This is supposedly the picture of the new WS-19 intended for the J-31/J-35 Stealth Fighter.

It said to make in the 24,000 - 25,000 lbs plus range. I believe it will also have TVC?

jessmo112 · by **jessmo112** » 06 May 2021, 15:19

Ill truly believe it when I see it.
This Chinese have made wild claims before.
What good would an engine be if it has 25k of thrust, but can only fly for 1k hours?

sferrin · by **sferrin** » 07 May 2021, 19:45

Maybe they snagged the F414 EPE files. :wink:

jetblast16 · by **jetblast16** » 08 May 2021, 16:15

sferrin wrote:Maybe they snagged the F414 EPE files.

Hopefully they got the honey pot ones, full of subtle technical errors and omissions.

madrat · by **madrat** » 08 May 2021, 17:24

Honeywell only gave them good ones. They are just in b&w so it's alright....

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 10 May 2021, 00:56

If, the Chinese could even match the general performance of the F100/F110 series would be impressive enough. Yet, that would be a tall order.......

Yet, won't be long before they surpass Russia though..... :wink:

sferrin · by **sferrin** » 10 May 2021, 15:52

Corsair1963 wrote:If, the Chinese could even match the general performance of the F100/F110 series would be impressive enough. Yet, that would be a tall order.......

Yet, won't be long before they surpass Russia though.....

I'd put the J-20 ahead of the Su-57.

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 10 May 2021, 22:47

sferrin wrote:
Corsair1963 wrote:If, the Chinese could even match the general performance of the F100/F110 series would be impressive enough. Yet, that would be a tall order.......

Yet, won't be long before they surpass Russia though.....

I'd put the J-20 ahead of the Su-57.

Without question.......

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 30 Sep 2021, 23:43

China announces plan to build new carrier-based fighter jet

The Aviation Industry Corporation of China, better known as AVIC, said on Wednesday it was launching a project to build a next-generation, twin-engines, carrier-borne fighter jet.

As noted by the company, the first prototype of a future carrier-borne stealth fighter will be debuted later this year.

The official media of China Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) also released video footage that showing a model and an artist’s rendering of a planned fighter jet. The new fighter will be twin-tailed, twin-engine, mid-wing design aircraft.

The future carrier-based fighter is intended to provide advanced defense capabilities in close-air support, aerial bombing and air interdiction operations. It can also perform suppression of enemy air defenses.

https://defence-blog.com/china-announce ... ghter-jet/

tphuang · by **tphuang** » 05 Oct 2021, 13:21

Corsair1963 wrote:China announces plan to build new carrier-based fighter jet

The Aviation Industry Corporation of China, better known as AVIC, said on Wednesday it was launching a project to build a next-generation, twin-engines, carrier-borne fighter jet.

As noted by the company, the first prototype of a future carrier-borne stealth fighter will be debuted later this year.

The official media of China Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) also released video footage that showing a model and an artist’s rendering of a planned fighter jet. The new fighter will be twin-tailed, twin-engine, mid-wing design aircraft.

The future carrier-based fighter is intended to provide advanced defense capabilities in close-air support, aerial bombing and air interdiction operations. It can also perform suppression of enemy air defenses.

https://defence-blog.com/china-announce ... ghter-jet/

I think this is working out as we all thought. Always made more sense for them to make J-35 the future naval aircraft. I don't think this go into mass production until WS-19 is ready for it. I'd that would be at least 5 years away.

jessmo112 · by **jessmo112** » 05 Oct 2021, 15:21

I can't wait for them to try and get this Turkey off a deck with a useful load. From what I remember it needed AB just to stay level years ago. Putting it on a carrier won't make it lighter.

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 06 Oct 2021, 02:09

tphuang wrote:
Corsair1963 wrote:China announces plan to build new carrier-based fighter jet

The Aviation Industry Corporation of China, better known as AVIC, said on Wednesday it was launching a project to build a next-generation, twin-engines, carrier-borne fighter jet.

As noted by the company, the first prototype of a future carrier-borne stealth fighter will be debuted later this year.

The official media of China Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) also released video footage that showing a model and an artist’s rendering of a planned fighter jet. The new fighter will be twin-tailed, twin-engine, mid-wing design aircraft.

The future carrier-based fighter is intended to provide advanced defense capabilities in close-air support, aerial bombing and air interdiction operations. It can also perform suppression of enemy air defenses.

https://defence-blog.com/china-announce ... ghter-jet/

I think this is working out as we all thought. Always made more sense for them to make J-35 the future naval aircraft. I don't think this go into mass production until WS-19 is ready for it. I'd that would be at least 5 years away.

I doubt the PLAN will wait that long. As they need to get the J-35's to sea as soon as possible. Plus, money isn't a major issue. So, my "guess" is the first batch or two will be equipped with the WS-13E. Which, is adequate for now....

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 06 Oct 2021, 02:11

jessmo112 wrote:I can't wait for them to try and get this Turkey off a deck with a useful load. From what I remember it needed AB just to stay level years ago. Putting it on a carrier won't make it lighter.

The J-31/FC-31/J-35 was recently redesigned......and a major one at that! :wink:

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 06 Oct 2021, 02:13

While, the primary focus today is on the Naval J-35. I for one expect to see a land-based version for the PLAAF in the not too distant future.....

(just saying)

milosh · by **milosh** » 06 Oct 2021, 16:56

jessmo112 wrote:I can't wait for them to try and get this Turkey off a deck with a useful load. From what I remember it needed AB just to stay level years ago. Putting it on a carrier won't make it lighter.

It wouldn't use old engines, domestic WS-19 is expected to be +100kN engine, and they have backup option Russian RD-93MA which is +90kN engine.

For comparsion F-14A use TF30 which was only 93kN engine, so J-35 with RD-93MA would have similar thurst as F-14A but would be lighter. With decent catapult there isn't any problem for J-35 to be used from carrier.