F-2 crash in Sea of Japan, pilots OK

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Unread post20 Feb 2019, 05:12

http://news.livedoor.com/lite/article_detail/16047854/

This hasn't been picked up by English outlets yet, so this will have to do. The crash happened during air combat training. Both pilots are conscious, but it will take more time for what exactly happened to be revealed
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Unread post20 Feb 2019, 08:41

Wednesday, 20 February 2019:
F-2B.
6th Hikoutai, 8th Koukuudan, JASDF, based at Tsuiki AB, Fukuoka Prefecture.

8:48, second of flight of three.
Took off, at Tsuiki AB, for air combat training.

9:18, confirmed distress signal.

9:20, lost radar contact, 130 km northeast from Tsuiki AB, above sea, near Yamaguchi Prefecture.

9:30, issued 3rd Rescue Region air rescue order.

10:06, U-125A of Ashiya Kyuunantai, found two rafts.

10:12, found two rescuees.
Conscious.

10:43, UH-60J of Ashiya Kyuunantai, rescued two rescuees.

http://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/index.html
http://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/H30/310220_1.pdf
http://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/H30/310220.pdf

JASDF official news releases.
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Unread post20 Feb 2019, 14:21

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 1-tysv-l35
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 4-tysv-l35
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 3-mai-soci
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 1-mai-soci
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... onews-soci
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews ... 15-ann-pol
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews ... 43-jnn-pol
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201902 ... 31000.html
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201902 ... 91000.html

Aircraft not armed.

Crashed into sea, near Mishima Island, Hagi City, Yamaguchi Prefecture.

Two pilots ejected, light wounded, and rescued.
Helicopter landed at Tsuiki AB, and pilots changed to two ambulances.

Front pilot was First Lieutenant, age above 20.
Back pilot was Captain, age above 30.

Afternoon, found nose cone and debris on sea.

Same morning, at Matsushima AB, Miyagi Prefecture, 10 F-2 took off, for training.
Afternoon, training cancelled.

http://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/tsuiki/butais ... index.html

8th Koukuudan Hikougun, JASDF, based at Tsuiki AB, Fukuoka Prefecture.

http://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/ashiya/butais ... index.html

Ashiya Kyuunantai, JASDF, based at Ashiya AB, Fukuoka Prefecture.
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Unread post22 Feb 2019, 16:29

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... asahi-soci
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... onews-soci
http://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/sf/news/W006H0000809.html
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201902 ... 41000.html

2019/02/21:
JMSDF ship used sonar, detected F-2 wreck, and blue paint confirmed by underwater camera.
Depth, 100 m.

Wreck would be salvaged, to recover flight recorders.

JASDF announced First Lieutenant's injury [neck] would take two weeks heal.
Captain's injury [spine] would take two months heal.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 4-san-soci

2019/02/21:
After accident, most F-2 flights cancelled, except scramble flights.
2019/02/21 night, after Hokkaidou earthquake, Misawa AB, Aomori Prefecture, scrambled two F-2 to reconnaissance earthquake area.
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Unread post24 Feb 2019, 17:16

>Wednesday, 20 February 2019:
>F-2B.
>6th Hikoutai, 8th Koukuudan, JASDF, based at Tsuiki AB, Fukuoka Prefecture.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 8-jij-soci

2019/02/21:
First Lieutenant had 160 hours in F-2.
Captain had 1,480 hours in F-2.
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Unread post27 Feb 2019, 12:08

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... onews-soci
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/201902 ... 81000.html

2019/02/27:
Accident cause possibly control mistake.

During air combat training, to avoid tracking, front-seat First Lieutenant decelerated accident F-2, dived, and turned.
At low speed, it climbed, and stalled.

Back-seat Captain assumed control, and failed to recover.

F-2 flights will resume from 28 February.
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Unread post28 Mar 2019, 14:29

Glad both crew are OK.

But they've got this all wrapped up, in little more than a month? If so, great. But I've NEVER heard of a like American accident and it's findings in such a short period of time. Then again, I don't know much about accident re-construction. Maybe they do things differently over there..

I find the F-2 a very peculiar aircraft. On the one hand, it seems plenty capable and a nice side kick to Japan's F-15 fleet.I'm sure that like the F-16, it's a great rate machine. The AESA was certainly innovative at the time. But my god, the price... They could have bought a whole lot more modern F-16's, and I fail to see where Japan's indigenous aircraft production capacity increased? They even shelved plans to build the F-35, going instead directly to the source - LM.

In any case, the F-2 should be able to hold its own vs. Chinese J-10's. Matching their advanced Flankers is another story, but their new F-35's should restore their (qualitative) advantage.
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Unread post15 Apr 2019, 11:39

>Wednesday, 20 February 2019:
>F-2B.
>73-8132. #132. C/N M3032.
>6th Hikoutai, 8th Koukuudan, JASDF, based at Tsuiki AB, Fukuoka Prefecture.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... onews-soci
https://www.iwate-np.co.jp/article/kyod ... /15/251833

Before or on 2019/04/15:
Civilian salvage company recovered most of wreck and flight recorder(s) from sea bottom.
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Unread post15 Apr 2019, 12:03

>I find the F-2 a very peculiar aircraft.

To be concise, and in case you're unfamiliar with the FS-X (Fighter Support Experimental) project: back in the early 1980s, JASDF planned a high-low combo of jet fighters.

F-15J/DJ as the high interceptor.
FS-X as the low anti-surface attacker, eh, support fighter... because "attacker" didn't sound pacifist.

Before FS-X, JASDF modified their T-2 trainer (two seats) into F-1 fighter (one seat) that could carry two anti-ship missiles.
FS-X was designed to carry four anti-ship missiles, and then-most advanced composite materials and radar.

FS-X concept design had two engines and ventral canards.
As Japan is an island nation, and after JASDF experience with F-86 and F-104 one-engine fighters, they next chose F-4 and F-15 two-engine fighters.

FS-X, like the T-2 and F-1, would be a mostly domestic project.
After Bush replaced Reagan as POTUS, the USA Government "convinced" (read: bullied) Japan to re-negotiate the portion of USA involvement in the project.
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Unread post22 Jun 2019, 16:32

>Wednesday, 20 February 2019:
>F-2B.
>73-8132. #132. C/N M3032.

https://flyteam.jp/news/article/111795

2019/06/21, JASDF announced accident report.
Accident during 1 vs 1 combat training.

Accident F-2B front pilot set throttle at minimum output, ascended, and turned left towards another F-2.
After turned left 90 degrees, began to turn right, nose pointed straight up, and began to stall.

Front pilot attempted recover, aircraft inverted, and he could not control.
Back pilot resumed control, attempted recover, body "floated" because aircraft inverted, and could not reach MPO [Manual Pitch Override] switch that switched control stick to manual mode.

Back pilot instructed front pilot to operate front pilot's MPO switch, but front pilot mistook or misunderstood, and operated different switch.
Uncontrollable condition continued, aircraft descended, and back pilot decided eject.

Back pilot ejected, then front pilot ejected, and aircraft crashed.

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