Desert storm Iraqi Air Force Losses (Claimed vs Actual )

[mixelflick]

Geez..

One wonders what the fear factor is now, after F-15's have been so dominant. I understand the Iraq situation is different, but I mean among other foreign pilots. Other than upgraded Flankers, I'd think it'd be high?

Has any foreign nation bought the Mig-29 upgrades, meaning Mig-35ish like performance?

[oldiaf]

On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely

[oldiaf]

Jan 17 1993 ( 2 years since DS ) ... Another F-16 scorred a kill ... This time against MiG-23ML ... Initially reported to be MiG-29

[oldiaf]

Is it possible if the Remora ECM pod when installed on MiG-29 .. The MiG-29 would be confused with Mirage F.1EQ ... Because in this case the first Kill scored by Graeter would be on a MiG-29 carrying the Remora over Talha AB while the kill that was shared by the EF-111 and Graeter near H2 is in fact also on Remora carrying aircraft but this time a MiG-2ML confused with Mirage ... This will leave kelk with a kill against a MiG-29 ( without Remora ) from Talha .... I also made a mistake : it was Captain Ismail MiG-29 that was damaged by AIM-7 not Ahmed Husain Hamdan ... Possibly this MiG-29 and his wingman Captain Helal are the 2 MiG-29 claimed by Draeger and Magil over Tamuz AB as their flight was late in the morning but Captain Ismail was only damaged while Captain Helal was not hit.

[tomcooper]

On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely

My info is that the MiG-25-pilot was injured during ejection (or when the missile hit, i.e. before ejection), and at least broke a leg. He was out of flying after this combat.

[oldiaf]

On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely

My info is that the MiG-25-pilot was injured during ejection (or when the missile hit, i.e. before ejection), and at least broke a leg. He was out of flying after this combat.

Captain Laith Hashim Thanon ejected and survived but I don't know if he injured or didn't fly again.

[tomcooper]

Talking about MiG-25s - though going quite 'off-topic' now: can you find out the name of IrAF MiG-25-pilot that shot down an IRIAF F-5E in June 1985?

[oldiaf]

Interested table showing some Iraqi perspective about DS losses

[old.iraqi.air.force]

Interested table showing some Iraqi perspective about DS losses

This table informal and published without checking.

[nikolaos]

Is there a similar list from the Iraqi AF which can be considered formal?

[oldiaf]

Is there a similar list from the Iraqi AF which can be considered formal?

Formal list mentions 23 ...

[nikolaos]

23 only? The allies claimed much more!
However the list you posted above has 27 losses with black color, should be considered confirmed one way or another?
If not which claims are to be dismissed?

[oldiaf]

23 only? The allies claimed much more!
However the list you posted above has 27 losses with black color, should be considered confirmed one way or another?
If not which claims are to be dismissed?

The list is informal ... We are working on the original formal list ... Remember some of the losses claimed by US is confirmed by Iraqi AF but attributed to other reasons than being shut downed !! Like the Mirage F.1EQ shut downed by US F-15C on Jan 27 .. The Iraqi AF claims it hits the ground ... .... Feeling Deja vu with Iraq - Iran war !!

[nikolaos]

... Feeling Deja vu with Iraq - Iran war !!

What do you mean exactly?