Desert storm Iraqi AF Losses ( claimed vs actual )

Cold war, Korea, Vietnam, and Desert Storm - up to and including for example the A-10, F-15, Mirage 200, MiG-29, and F-18.
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Unread post04 Sep 2015, 12:41

Geez..

One wonders what the fear factor is now, after F-15's have been so dominant. I understand the Iraq situation is different, but I mean among other foreign pilots. Other than upgraded Flankers, I'd think it'd be high?

Has any foreign nation bought the Mig-29 upgrades, meaning Mig-35ish like performance?
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Unread post04 Sep 2015, 13:02

On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely
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Unread post04 Sep 2015, 13:03

Jan 17 1993 ( 2 years since DS ) ... Another F-16 scorred a kill ... This time against MiG-23ML ... Initially reported to be MiG-29
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Unread post22 Sep 2015, 01:34

Is it possible if the Remora ECM pod when installed on MiG-29 .. The MiG-29 would be confused with Mirage F.1EQ ... Because in this case the first Kill scored by Graeter would be on a MiG-29 carrying the Remora over Talha AB while the kill that was shared by the EF-111 and Graeter near H2 is in fact also on Remora carrying aircraft but this time a MiG-2ML confused with Mirage ... This will leave kelk with a kill against a MiG-29 ( without Remora ) from Talha .... I also made a mistake : it was Captain Ismail MiG-29 that was damaged by AIM-7 not Ahmed Husain Hamdan ... Possibly this MiG-29 and his wingman Captain Helal are the 2 MiG-29 claimed by Draeger and Magil over Tamuz AB as their flight was late in the morning but Captain Ismail was only damaged while Captain Helal was not hit.
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Unread post23 Sep 2015, 13:21

oldiaf wrote:On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely

My info is that the MiG-25-pilot was injured during ejection (or when the missile hit, i.e. before ejection), and at least broke a leg. He was out of flying after this combat.
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Unread post23 Sep 2015, 13:26

tomcooper wrote:
oldiaf wrote:On Dec. 25 1992 Christmas day ... F-16D shut downed a MiG-25PDS squadron 97 ... This was the first AA Kill scorred by F-16 and the first kill by AIM-120 ... The MiG-25 pilot ejected safely

My info is that the MiG-25-pilot was injured during ejection (or when the missile hit, i.e. before ejection), and at least broke a leg. He was out of flying after this combat.

Captain Laith Hashim Thanon ejected and survived but I don't know if he injured or didn't fly again.
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Unread post24 Sep 2015, 14:43

Talking about MiG-25s - though going quite 'off-topic' now: can you find out the name of IrAF MiG-25-pilot that shot down an IRIAF F-5E in June 1985?
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Unread post25 Sep 2015, 21:07

Interested table showing some Iraqi perspective about DS losses
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Unread post25 Sep 2015, 22:23

oldiaf wrote:Interested table showing some Iraqi perspective about DS losses

This table informal and published without checking.
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Unread post28 Sep 2015, 11:36

Is there a similar list from the Iraqi AF which can be considered formal?
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Unread post03 Oct 2015, 01:23

nikolaos wrote:Is there a similar list from the Iraqi AF which can be considered formal?

Formal list mentions 23 ...
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Unread post03 Oct 2015, 09:44

23 only? The allies claimed much more!
However the list you posted above has 27 losses with black color, should be considered confirmed one way or another?
If not which claims are to be dismissed?
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Unread post03 Oct 2015, 11:22

nikolaos wrote:23 only? The allies claimed much more!
However the list you posted above has 27 losses with black color, should be considered confirmed one way or another?
If not which claims are to be dismissed?

The list is informal ... We are working on the original formal list ... Remember some of the losses claimed by US is confirmed by Iraqi AF but attributed to other reasons than being shut downed !! Like the Mirage F.1EQ shut downed by US F-15C on Jan 27 .. The Iraqi AF claims it hits the ground ... .... Feeling Deja vu with Iraq - Iran war !!
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Unread post05 Oct 2015, 13:24

oldiaf wrote:... Feeling Deja vu with Iraq - Iran war !!


What do you mean exactly?
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