zero-one wrote:Not sure what the recent re-obsession is with Nukes. They're pretty much white elephants in today's world. You can't use them unless you're deliberately starting WW3. I'm guessing these thing can also carry conventional warheads.
There's a backhanded upside though. Yes, they can not be used as war-fighting weapons, and can only deter/prevent others using them on you (useful), but do 'force' Russia, China and NORKs etc., to invest in expensive and economically draining investments in nukes and their support. And thus divert $ away from competitive conventional weapon development and aquisitions, which they could actually use in war. Possessing nukes can not deter a conventional war, or help to win one (many examples exist), so they're no better off in practice having nukes or spending scarce capital in modernising them.
Soviet nuke and related systems production collapsed in 1986, they went broke and had to start borrowing money from Western banks (capitalists) and when their credit dried-up and further loans were refused in 1989, they just collapsed. All the nukes you could want ... and no national security. lol
So as long as their expense impedes their economic progress and capital investments, in air and space power, they're worth it - for us.
It's maybe a good thing Putin feels nukes will help him be the ru dictator, as he seems to have bled his airpower development budget to rebuild the useless nuke force and its systems, having not digested Soviet economic errors, of building ~39,000 nukes, or realised that he can't actually fight a war with any of them, or deter conventional operations against his own relatively diminished conventional forces. Nor can the NORKs, China. So nothing much has changed, except that the more money they spend on nukes, the relatively weaker they become in useable conventional capabilities.
So the logical thing to do is spend the minimum necessary on credible US, UK, French modernisation of a small nuke force, and pour money into conventional developments and procurements, instead.
That will keep the West stronger in useable capabilities for many decades, while we watch Russia bleed out their capital and economic energy, maintaining their unuseables.
Good on them.