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Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 06:15
by johnwill
I was so busy rapidly taking pictures I wasn't conscious of how loud it was. I think we could compare the sound of 2 J-79s in an F-4 to 6 J-93s in the XB-70. The 93 was basically a scaled up 79 with almost double the thrust, say 1.8x. So 3 x engines with 1.8 x thrust each is louder than 5 F-4s in formation takeoff.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 23:04
by jetblast16
Awesome.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 23:18
by jetblast16


Original video source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdHvt_qetYg

2:37 - 2:54. That's rough field operations, ahem, F-35[B] :wink:

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 23:38
by jetblast16


Original video source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5A13atLHQatLHQ

That "classic" Hornet sure could hustle :shock:

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 23:54
by jetblast16

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 26 Nov 2021, 01:59
by jetblast16


Original video source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASg28A6vmM

A very impressive demo of a 'B'...I think my favorite variant of the F-35 is the 'B' model. Yep.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 05 Dec 2021, 00:57
by jetblast16

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 08 Dec 2021, 03:09
by jetblast16


Original video source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0vKxGtKl2c

Oops..? :roll:

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 15 Dec 2021, 06:35
by huggy
johnwill wrote: Best part was XB-70 takeoff, then coming around for a low pass in close formation with the B-58.

YGBSM!!

I had no idea they ever took a -70 to an airshow. Holy smokes! I've seen some cool stuff in my time going to airshows, but that is amazing.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 15 Dec 2021, 13:07
by sferrin
huggy wrote:
johnwill wrote: Best part was XB-70 takeoff, then coming around for a low pass in close formation with the B-58.

YGBSM!!

I had no idea they ever took a -70 to an airshow. Holy smokes! I've seen some cool stuff in my time going to airshows, but that is amazing.


How 'bout this for an airshow static display? :drool: (Carswell AFB 1964 IIRC)

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Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 15 Dec 2021, 20:10
by johnwill
I don't think those photos are at Carswell. Looks much more like Edwards to me. Doesn't matter, those are still great shots.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 16 Dec 2021, 02:09
by sferrin
johnwill wrote:I don't think those photos are at Carswell. Looks much more like Edwards to me. Doesn't matter, those are still great shots.


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Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 16 Dec 2021, 06:28
by johnwill
Thanks for that wonderful photo. I've never seen that one before. One other mistake in labeling is the F-5, which is in fact a T-38.

Recalling my comment about XB-70 fuel leakage, many people seem to be gathered under its wing, evidently looking at the same thing.

Some may not be familiar with the RB-57. In the early 60s, GD Fort Worth converted 22 Martin B-57s (based on English Electric Canberra) by increasing the wing area from 960 sqft to 2000 sqft and replacing the engines with a pair of TF-33s and a pair of J-85s that were easily installed on underwing pylons for some missions. It had a mission similar to the U2, but was more survivable. Three still survive (last time I heard) as WB-57Fs based in Houston doing weather research for NASA.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 16 Dec 2021, 12:47
by sferrin
johnwill wrote:Thanks for that wonderful photo. I've never seen that one before. One other mistake in labeling is the F-5, which is in fact a T-38.

Recalling my comment about XB-70 fuel leakage, many people seem to be gathered under its wing, evidently looking at the same thing.

Some may not be familiar with the RB-57. In the early 60s, GD Fort Worth converted 22 Martin B-57s (based on English Electric Canberra) by increasing the wing area from 960 sqft to 2000 sqft and replacing the engines with a pair of TF-33s and a pair of J-85s that were easily installed on underwing pylons for some missions. It had a mission similar to the U2, but was more survivable. Three still survive (last time I heard) as WB-57Fs based in Houston doing weather research for NASA.


They even have one setup to watch SpaceX's Starship (if the FAA ever approves flight). Rather the plan is to use Starship as a "target of opportunity" if that makes sense. When SpaceX flew the first test hop with SN8 they tried to have a WB-57 on hand but the SN8 flight got scrubbed for the day. As I recall there was footage from the WB-57 at the end of the runway waiting for the Go/ No Go when the flight got scrubbed.

Re: Airshow Magic

Unread postPosted: 16 Dec 2021, 16:50
by F-16ADF
Since we can't go back to the 1960's to see the B-70 at an airshow, then the next best option is go to the USAF museum and see it on display. The Valkyrie's presence is near unbelievable. The B-36 is also titanic.


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I would say Convair made the best looking jets.

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