Russia-Ukraine War 2022

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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 12:59

Fascinating technology, using magneto-acoustic waves to determine missile trajectory, at least launch and impact: https://twitter.com/rrichcord/status/15 ... TeMw8nTOYg
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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 13:36

The aftermath of this event is very interesting. The Russian MoD ran the usual line of accident. The Ukrainian MoD trolled the Z-force about the rules of fire safety and the prohibition of smoking. The Russian propagandists were shocked and awed to silence. Better to ignore it if you don't know how to respond. The Russian tourists were forming a long traffic jam out of Crimea. A woman was upset because her vacation was cut short. :bang: The media muddied the water by reporting that was a SOF raid. Sure, must be that shirtless man with a hair band, running around with a machine gun.

I can imagine the cleanup crew furiously removing the wrecks overnight, before the next daytime satellite pass.

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Based on this CCTV video, first blast occurred on 15:18, two more big ones on 16:10. A number of blasts in between. The convenience store sustained little damage besides door and windows blown off.

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4801047013818478

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Destroyed vehicles near the Kakhovka dam

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4801056622968847

Freshly damaged Kakhovka dam road bridge

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4801052248309904

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Big fire after explosions at Chonhar

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-august ... at-chonhar

What is going on here? Another attack way beyond the range of GMLRS. SOF, Neptune missile, Mig-29 with HARM, 180 km overland strike?

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First BDA images

Two sheds disappeared. The suspected pile of ammo in the middle turned into a crater. 8 of 10 aircraft in shelters burned down.
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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 20:27

mmm wrote: All in all not very cheap losses

I retract that... It's Moskva all over again level bad.

https://twitter.com/OSINTua/status/1557440576806608897

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The aircrafts in what appears to be berm shelters that are suppose to catch fragments and contain damage got charred all the same.

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At least they cleaned the open area relatively quick.

If Russia's ~3000 "high precision weapons" all achieve effects like this the situation would have been a lot more difficult.
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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 20:50

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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 21:03

In the previous video, all those cars in the car park burned down or had windows broken. One had a steel beam penetrated through. Those planes in shelter or on the flight line, even if not burned down, most likely were seriously damaged. I want to know if that IL-76 and 'bizjet' survived.
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Unread post10 Aug 2022, 23:05

That BDA came in quickly - another disaster for the Russians it looks like.
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Unread post11 Aug 2022, 00:08

Better sat image is available. The ammo depot and fuel dump, a few Flankers and the 'bizjet' appears to be fine. The IL-76 is missing.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/w ... -in-crimea

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Earlier video of the damaged Kakhovka dam lock.

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4801113736806404

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Reportedly explosions were heard near Ziabrauka airfield, Gomel region, Belarus.
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Unread post11 Aug 2022, 06:30

Hey Putin...............can you here me NOW !!!
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Unread post11 Aug 2022, 07:48

I am not sure if this is the fuel depot. It is outside the airbase, separated by road and perimeter fence.

The 'double bunker' ammo dump is inside the airbase, but right next to a residential area. The Russians are not that crazy, are they? This is a case of residential development encroaching on the former land of the airbase.

The destruction is very concentrated. The residential blocks 400 m away escaped lightly.

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"In connection with the appeals to the Ministry of Defense about the outbreaks in the area Zyabrovka Gomel region, we inform that on August 10 about 23 hours during the control run of one of the units of equipment after the engine change occurred its fire. The personnel took timely measures to extinguish it," reads the report.

The Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus also claims that there were no casualties. 8)

https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/38387
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Unread post11 Aug 2022, 16:47

Interesting twitter thread by Justin Bronk: https://twitter.com/Justin_Br0nk/status ... 0094741504

F-16 and Gripen would be the best candidates for Ukraine.
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Unread post11 Aug 2022, 17:43

Has a good High Res image of the Saki AB damage.

https://planesandstuff.wordpress.com/20 ... aftermath/
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Unread post12 Aug 2022, 07:36

zhangmdev wrote:I am not sure if this is the fuel depot. It is outside the airbase, separated by road and perimeter fence.

The 'double bunker' ammo dump is inside the airbase, but right next to a residential area. The Russians are not that crazy, are they? This is a case of residential development encroaching on the former land of the airbase.

The destruction is very concentrated. The residential blocks 400 m away escaped lightly.


From the larger pictures, it's definitely obvious that the aim of the attack was to destroy as much military capability as possible with minimum collateral damage. There seems to be a lot of civilian buildings very near to the airbase, so this definitely shows extreme precision and careful planning. It's pretty clear that whatever hit there, had rather large explosive content. I bet Russians are now very nervous about their airbases anywhere near Ukraine.
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Unread post12 Aug 2022, 07:44

Everyone has some theory about what was used. This is a good thing, keep the enemy guessing.

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Javelin vs T-80. Lucky driver.

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4801610757636231

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More 'evidence' of HARM. The Russians have one more thing to obsess with.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/n ... ine-emerge
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Unread post12 Aug 2022, 09:40

loke wrote:Interesting twitter thread by Justin Bronk: https://twitter.com/Justin_Br0nk/status ... 0094741504

F-16 and Gripen would be the best candidates for Ukraine.


I would not rule out F-15EX or Super Hornets either. While more expensive, they would also have some significant advantages in payload/range and detection range. Growler would be good against Russian radar systems and comms and both have very wide selection of weapons.
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Unread post12 Aug 2022, 12:23

F-16 is the only realistic option for the Ukraine. We are not handing Growler over to a lukewarm ally that is cozy to China.
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