Russia-Ukraine War 2022

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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 02:33

The North Koreans are coming to help Russia apparently.
I. Going to call this war, the war of fools.
Alot of idiots in this war dieing needlessly.
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 10:56

100k 'volunteers' from DPRK is as plausible as mercs from ME or Africa. Putin has very little leverage over KJU.

Wagnerites in ME and Africa are being redeployed to fight this War. Russia's overseas power is on the wane. It can not even stop Azerbaijan making a move on Karabakh. The entanglement in Syria may not be as smart as previously thought.

The four bulk carriers left Ukrainian ports today carrying almost 170,000 tonnes of corn and other foodstuffs, Ukraine's sea ports authority said.


Is Russia really lifting the blockade? I expect treachery is afoot.

And

Russian source reported Kakhovka senior official Vitaly Gura was assassinated.

https://tass.com/world/1490371

Had a date with Mr. Makarov

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/08/06/dep ... sive-care/
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 11:40

Sounds like the Ukraine air force still can operate. They took out 4 S-300 and 1 Pantsir-S1 complex earlier if we belive OC "South"

On August 6, the Ukrainian attack aircraft with the addition of a tactical bomber, fighter jets and helicopters carried out 9 strikes on 3 strongholds, 4 enemy concentrations, weapons and equipment, an ammunition depot and a radar station.

And it look like Ukraine maybe will have the NASAMS some day in september.
https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine-nee ... -missiles/
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 16:09

Russian source shows the alleged fragments of AGM-88 HARM, with tailfin marked BSU-60A/B. There was chattering about anti-radiation missile 'wiped out' Russian AD system previously.
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 16:52

Ha nice
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 20:25

That particular missile was officially decommissioned before being recycled. Anyone could have taken that object off the scrap heap. /s
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Unread post07 Aug 2022, 20:49

Wrong - ed
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 00:04

Ukraine Needs NASAMS to Defend Against Russian Cruise Missiles
Aug. 4, 2022 | By Abraham Mahshie
Russia’s long-range bombers fire cruise missiles against Ukrainian civilian and military infrastructure nearly unimpeded, so Ukraine needs surface-to-air missile systems that can track and destroy cruise missiles, a senior Ukrainian defense official told Air Force Magazine.

Russian TU-160 and TU-135 strategic bombers take off in Russian airspace, off-limits territory for attack with the U.S.-supplied weapons that Ukraine now operates. Once airborne, they launch deadly cruise missiles capable of hitting targets across Ukraine. Then the bombers safely land, having never been in danger.

The destruction has been relentless. Civilian apartment buildings, recreation centers, shopping malls, and port facilities. Russia alleges to have also hit Ukrainian weapons depots.

Ukraine’s network of surface-to-air missile systems has helped. The Norwegian-built National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS), which is also used to protect Washington, D.C., will be an added advantage. But two systems announced by President Joe Biden on July 1 and under contract by the U.S. government for Ukraine are believed to be months away from delivery.

A Ukrainian Defense Ministry official told Air Force Magazine they are hoping the NASAMS will arrive by mid-September.

“We need specific systems that can track and shoot down cruise missiles,” Chief Master Sergeant of the Ukrainian Air Force Kostiantyn Stanislavchuk told Air Force Magazine on the sidelines of the Senior Enlisted Leader International Summit near Washington, D.C.

Stanislavchuk was on hand to tell NCO leaders from more than 60 countries how Ukraine’s NCO corps has been able to push back Russia thanks to U.S. and NATO standard training.

Still, the enlisted chief said there are limits to what Ukrainian forces can do against superior Russian aircraft and sophisticated cruise missiles.

“In the current air picture, we’re seeing the Ukrainian Air Force is dominant in the areas that they are controlling right now,” he said. “The Russians are not even getting close to actually pushing through it. They can’t because there’s too much defense, there’s too much coverage on that area.”

Stanislavchuk said he wanted to see all of Ukraine protected by the Ukrainian Air Force. He told a story from the early days of the conflict to demonstrate the will of Ukraine’s pilots.

Four Russian fighters were observed approaching Kyiv.

The Ukrainian Air Force launched two MiG-29s to intercept the aircraft. When the two pilots got airborne, they saw 12 Russian aircraft flying from four points.

“In air battles, we were significantly outnumbered by the enemy,” Stanislavchuk recounted to the NCO group Aug. 1.

“Two of our pilots did not deviate from the course and went straight to the enemy,” he said. “As a result of the dogfight, we lost one pilot who was killed, while the other pilot completed the mission and returned to base. The invaders lost three of their planes.”

Stanislavchuk said the Ukraine Air Force’s other main gap, in addition to SAMs that can shoot down cruise missiles, is modern aircraft. Ukraine now flies Soviet-era MiG-29s and Su-24s.

“With cruise missiles, it is more difficult for our air defense. Our only system of air defense of the state is no means of anti-missile defense,” he told the group, saying Ukraine’s air defenses are no comparison with the U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries operated by Poland and Romania.

“We only have anti-aircraft defense equipment,” he explained. “In addition to aircraft, we also shoot down cruise missiles, although this is a difficult target.”

Stanislavchuk said the Russian strategic bombers are launching their missiles while flying over the waters of the Black Sea, from inside Russia, and from the Caspian Sea in particular.

He added that new fighter aircraft could be quickly employed and used with great efficiency, similarly to how Javelin anti-tank missiles had helped destroy more than 1,700 tanks and more than 4,000 armed combat vehicles as of Aug. 2.

Still, Russia is believed to have fired more than 3,000 missiles, ballistic and cruise, at Ukraine since the conflict began Feb. 24.

“We were utilizing javelins so accurately, so efficiently, it was just destroying the enemy left and right,” he said.

“Just getting the planes is going to be filling a huge part of the efforts that we need right now,” Stanislavchuk said. “We can just destroy them right there on the spot and keep pushing them further and further. Overall, it’s going to provide us a huge superiority in the air.”

Stanislavchuk said the Ukrainian military has demonstrated its motivation to quickly train and effectively use the weapons provided by other nations.

“With the modern planes, they will be utilized immediately. We will train up our pilots as quickly as possible to hit and control the airspace,” he said. Ukrainian Air Force officials have said they can train 30 available pilots on the F-16 in six months’ time.

Efforts to pass U.S. legislation that would fund the training of Ukrainian pilots has stalled, and the Pentagon has said the focuses of air support to Ukraine right now are unmanned aerial systems and High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS). The U.S. has already committed 16 HIMARS systems to Ukraine, and 12 are known to be in use.

“As soon as we get the planes in the air, we start destroying airplanes as quickly as possible and as efficiently,” Stanislavchuk said of the prospect of receiving modern aircraft—“just because there’s just the motivation and the spirit to fight and destroy.”

https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine-nee ... 5Zs1sqHYZ4
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 00:06

Is Russia really running out of time for a major breakthrough in the war in Ukraine. As the latter continues to get stronger with time. While, Russia is depleting her resources and manpower.........

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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 00:52

Did someone just admit that patriot was better than the S-300? Don't they have S-300 and buck? This may be a wake-up call for countries that assume Russian made systems can defend from cruise missiles.
In fact nothing Russian has worked as advertised.
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 07:13

jessmo112 wrote:Did someone just admit that patriot was better than the S-300? Don't they have S-300 and buck? This may be a wake-up call for countries that assume Russian made systems can defend from cruise missiles.
In fact nothing Russian has worked as advertised.


Yes, Ukraine has S-300 but their variants are from 1980's and are about equivalent (at best) to earliest variant of Patriot (MIM-104A/B). S-300 is also now Russian system and is definitely a dead-end for Ukranians and needs a good replacement ASAP. Patriot is now way superior to those variants like it's way superior to 1980's Patriots and will be developed for a long time. Patriot today is also definitely superior to S-300 or S-400 in most ways due to AESA radars, more advanced missiles and networking abilities. Of course S-300/400 are very dangerous systems but I'd rather have latest Patriot system protecting my country.

Btw, actually Ukranians have been very successful with those old S-300s (as well as Buk system) but they are definitely rather limited systems (especially against cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and UAVs) and getting very old. But they have made it almost impossible for Russians to use their attack aircraft and bombers over Ukranian airspace. With say Patriot and NASAMS systems, they would've been able to defend themselves much better against long range missiles also.
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 08:28

Antonovsky bridge was attacked again.

Kirill Stremousov: "In this regard, the opening of the bridge will be somewhat delayed,"

https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022- ... HQCpq.html

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A T-90M with strange ornaments. Not sure if it was really captured.

And

Another video of the Antonovsky bridge. The Russians pretend to patch up the holes.

https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4800333394935914
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 08:47

pron wrote:And it look like Ukraine maybe will have the NASAMS some day in september.
https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine-nee ... -missiles/


This is good news as NASAMS is a really good system against cruise missile threat. I like the fact that with Ukraine operating NASAMS, Western countries will be able to give/sell them AIM-120s, AIM-9s and even ESSM and AMRAAM-ER missiles. That is good for getting Ukranians used to these weapons and how to support and maintain them. That's one step forward towards getting them Western fighter aircraft as air-to-air munitions and Western data links become familiar to them.
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Unread post08 Aug 2022, 18:31

New big package from USA valued at up to $1 billion.

Capabilities in this package include:

Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
75,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition
20 120mm mortar systems and 20,000 rounds of 120mm mortar ammunition
Munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS)
1,000 Javelin and hundreds of AT4 anti-armor systems
50 armored medical treatment vehicles
Claymore anti-personnel munitions
C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment
Medical supplies, to include first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/R ... r-ukraine/
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