Need help from French speaker - Rafale RCS reduction

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Unread post04 Jul 2022, 17:05

Can someone who speaks French please help me translate the part in this video between 10:22 and 11:34?
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Unread post04 Jul 2022, 20:11

Over 10 years, radar detection means achieved considerable progress. To perform their missions, modern combat aircraft need to be stealthy, that is to say they need to be the least detectable by enemy air defenses. Engineers at Dassault and Thompson CSF, the future Thales, will work to make the Rafale invisible. Through shaping and materials and development of an electronic defense system, they will rethink the aircraft so as to deflect and absorb radar waves.

Guy at 10:51 : So we redesigned everything.

Guillaume Steuer : Everything has been studied to reduce to a minimum what one calls the aircraft's radar cross section.

Guy at 11:02 : Between the Rafale C01 and the Rafale A, there's nothing in common. However, when one sees them, one says it's the same aircraft.

Guy at 11:14 : It looks similar, but there isn't a single identical shape.

Guy at 11:20 : There's nothing in common except the wheels (landing gear).

Bruno Revellin-Falcoz at 11:25 : Of course, we're in some confidential territory, but let's say that the Rafale's signature (RCS), viewed from the front, it's the signature of a sparrow.
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Unread post04 Jul 2022, 22:55

viper12 wrote:Engineers at Dassault and Thompson CSF, the future Thales, will work to make the Rafale invisible. Through shaping and materials and development of an electronic defense system, they will rethink the aircraft so as to deflect and absorb radar waves.


viper12 wrote:Bruno Revellin-Falcoz at 11:25 : Of course, we're in some confidential territory, but let's say that the Rafale's signature (RCS), viewed from the front, it's the signature of a sparrow.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

That's why a "thing" called FCAS is currently being developed, right? :doh: :roll:

P.S. - Thanks for the translation viper12 :thumb:
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Unread post05 Jul 2022, 02:27

Thank you a lot Viper.

The reason I asked for translation video is mainly because there are some section showing the radar scattering of the Rafale airframe, and I want to figure out whether Rafale has a FSS radome.

Could you perhaps translate what they say at 11:6 and 11:22 ?

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Unread post05 Jul 2022, 12:11

You can turn on subtitles, then go to settings and auto translate to english.
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Unread post05 Jul 2022, 16:05

optimist wrote:You can turn on subtitles, then go to settings and auto translate to english.

I tried that but unfortunately, there is no English subtitles for that video, no auto translate either
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Unread post05 Jul 2022, 19:28

garrya wrote:Can you translate what they say at 11:6 and 11:22 ?


It's what he said :

Guy at 11:02 : Between the Rafale C01 and the Rafale A, there's nothing in common. However, when one sees them, one says it's the same aircraft.

11:06 is when he starts saying "Rafale A".
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Unread post08 Jul 2022, 03:04

garrya wrote:
optimist wrote:You can turn on subtitles, then go to settings and auto translate to english.

I tried that but unfortunately, there is no English subtitles for that video, no auto translate either

Click on the subtitle box to get the red line underneath and the french text shown.
Then go to Setting you will see, French (autogenerated) click on that and you will see 'Auto-translate', click on that and a list of languages will appear, scroll down to English.

It works in google chrome browser, I checked it again. The app may be different. I didn't check it and I don't use the app, because I can't ad block on it

screenshot of it working
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Unread post08 Jul 2022, 15:02

optimist wrote:Click on the subtitle box to get the red line underneath and the french text shown.
Then go to Setting you will see, French (autogenerated) click on that and you will see 'Auto-translate', click on that and a list of languages will appear, scroll down to English.


"between the burst the c01 and the burst at there is nothing in common"

"however when you see them audit this same plane" :lmao:
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Unread post09 Jul 2022, 06:38

It's a late 70 early 80's design. Demonstrated in 1986. At best they can say that they developed it to F01 in 1991 (video) later called the F1 and operational in 2001
(wiki). Rafale A demo: 4 July 1986 Rafale C: 19 May 1991 Introduction 18 May 2001

Then they criticise the F-35 timeline :mrgreen: x-35 flew in 2000 and F-35 in 2006
They say they are going to fly it to 2070. At the moment they have only dreams of a next gen.
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Unread post09 Jul 2022, 14:30

The original in service date was 1996 for the Rafale we know. It would have meet this if not for budget cuts, the aircraft entered service much later then the technology would imply. The ACT program when launched in the late 70s was target for 1992 hence ACT92. I’m not sure if this design is well reflected by the Rafale A. But either way neither is F-35 class. That article about HAF F-16s doing DACT with French F1 and F2 Rafales seems to imply it’s what you would expect for a 4th gen, though it might be one of the better ones I doubt it’s a drastic difference.

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