
mixelflick wrote:milosh wrote:When MiG-25 were used by Iraqis as they are designed to be used they were quite potent machines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmPkq5jQmYQ
in fact Iran also had problem to down MiG-25 if it used properly. This is why they used F-5 for ambush instead lot more capable F-14. Iraqis would easily detect F-14 and command MiG-25 pilot to fly high and even excellent AIM-54 couldn't help if that happen.
btw Iraqis MiG-25 weren't all P version maybe half of fleet was P (figher interceptor). So they didn't have big fleet of MiG-25 interceptors but still achieved lot with them.
MiG-31 had all good stuff of MiG-25 but much more reliable FCS, noticeable better autonomy and 2-2.5 times higher G limit during supersonic flight. Also MiG-31 had what can consider advanced datalink even in 1990s.
So I really doubt IDAF could deal with Foxhounds if there isn't noticeable numerical advantage and Soviet pilots act stupid.
Interesting video! So it's apparent to me Mig-25's were dependent on GCI, but so too did the F-15's rely heavily on AWACS. It was really disheartening to see all of the failed Sparrow shots, after how many years since that issue presented itself in Vietnam? Frankly, the R-40 looked far more reliable, and let's remember one took down Speicher's F/A-18C first night of the war.
I don't believe the Eagle crashed, but I do believe it was hit. On the one hand, that's too close for comfort. On the other, the F-15 can really take some hits and get those pilots home! The R-40 has an enormously powerful warhead, much larger and more powerful than any Sparrow (or AMRAAM, for that matter).
The whole thing illustrates just how important situational awareness is though, doesn't it? An F-35 that can't be seen but who can see these Foxbats from the minute they take off.... incredible. I would NOT want to be a foreign pilot fighting that thing, because doing flips, cobra's etc isn't going to cut it. They'll be spare parts, teeth and eyeballs in short order..
F-15/AIM-7M had a much better record than Mig-25/R-40, by a huge margin.