SU-75 Checkmate

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Unread post13 Nov 2021, 22:42

Russia is expected to display its Sukhoi Su-75 Checkmate fighter jet at the Dubai Airshow this week. It's a direct competitor to the American F-35 fighter
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Unread post13 Nov 2021, 23:42

edpop wrote:Russia is expected to display its plywood mockup of the proposed Sukhoi Su-75 Checkmate fighter jet at the Dubai Airshow this week. It's a direct competitor to the American F-35 fighter


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Unread post14 Nov 2021, 11:53

edpop wrote:Russia is expected to display its Sukhoi Su-75 Checkmate fighter jet at the Dubai Airshow this week. It's a direct competitor to the American F-35 fighter
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Unread post14 Nov 2021, 11:59

Never knew that wooden models can compete with actual planes. :bang:
No plans for a built in gun, can it not dogfight? Nothing can beat the Mark I eyeball and the Ma deuce 50 cal machine gun.


Rostec is anticipating that Argentina, India and Vietnam will become the primary export destinations for the aircraft, with the African market also showing interest.

Production is forecast to be 300 planes over 15 years.

Did not realize that Vietnam was looking to buy the F-35, 300 planes over 15 years!
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not_kent wrote:Never knew that wooden models can compete with actual planes. :bang:
No plans for a built in gun, can it not dogfight? Nothing can beat the Mark I eyeball and the Ma deuce 50 cal machine gun.


Rostec is anticipating that Argentina, India and Vietnam will become the primary export destinations for the aircraft, with the African market also showing interest.

Production is forecast to be 300 planes over 15 years.

Did not realize that Vietnam was looking to buy the F-35, 300 planes over 15 years!


It can have gun in one side bay but then it can carry only four AAM. Also they are offering two gun option which would be replacment for Su-25. Su-34 with more armor and stronger gun which was proposed is way to big and not nice for flying at lower altitude as Su-25 is, also it is lot more expensive to be build and to operated compared to Su-25 and Su-75.

I think they are targeting primary domestic market becuase with 30million price it make quite interesting competitor to Su-35 and it kills MiG-35.

Of course 30million is barebone variant so no EOTS like sensor, 14.5tons engine and probable some low tech RAM but still RCS is way lower then Su-35 and even MiG-35.
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Unread post14 Nov 2021, 21:45

This entire thread does not belong here in the F-35 Forum. If anywhere, it should go in the Modern Military Aircraft forum. Posting this drivel here -- proclaiming a prototype is unveiled in one sentence, whilst stating first flight is not for several years -- could be seen by some as trolling.
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 00:07

Salute!

What Steve said

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milosh wrote:
not_kent wrote:Never knew that wooden models can compete with actual planes. :bang:
No plans for a built in gun, can it not dogfight? Nothing can beat the Mark I eyeball and the Ma deuce 50 cal machine gun.


Rostec is anticipating that Argentina, India and Vietnam will become the primary export destinations for the aircraft, with the African market also showing interest.

Production is forecast to be 300 planes over 15 years.

Did not realize that Vietnam was looking to buy the F-35, 300 planes over 15 years!


It can have gun in one side bay but then it can carry only four AAM. Also they are offering two gun option which would be replacment for Su-25. Su-34 with more armor and stronger gun which was proposed is way to big and not nice for flying at lower altitude as Su-25 is, also it is lot more expensive to be build and to operated compared to Su-25 and Su-75.

I think they are targeting primary domestic market becuase with 30million price it make quite interesting competitor to Su-35 and it kills MiG-35.

Of course 30million is barebone variant so no EOTS like sensor, 14.5tons engine and probable some low tech RAM but still RCS is way lower then Su-35 and even MiG-35.


I'm still amazed at this future price projection being talked about like its a sure thing. I guess the crystal ball was just broken with Su-57
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 03:40

edpop wrote:Russia is expected to display its Sukhoi Su-75 Checkmate fighter jet at the Dubai Airshow this week. It's a direct competitor to the American F-35 fighter

Why is this topic posted in the Lightning Forum? This has nothing to do with the Lightning. Please post future topics in the correct forum.
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 09:16

Can we merge old thread in this one? That is what make confusion folks see no Su75 thread and make one. Old one dont have good title:
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 18:50

Salute!

What milosh said!

Many are intersted in the development of new planes from all countries, and those well on their way to production and deployment.

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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 19:54

My earlier pointer to this article appears to be lost so here it is again: [PDFs can be made if'n some can't see articles]

Sukhoi’s Checkmate Looks To Carve Out Niche In International Fighter Market 14 Nov 2021 Piotr Butowski
https://aviationweek.com/shownews/dubai ... ter-market
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First Flying Checkmate Aircraft Enter Assembly In Russia 15 Nov 2021 Steve Trimble
https://aviationweek.com/shownews/dubai ... bly-russia
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 21:57

spazsinbad wrote:My earlier pointer to this article appears to be lost so here it is again: [PDFs can be made if'n some can't see articles]

Sukhoi’s Checkmate Looks To Carve Out Niche In International Fighter Market 14 Nov 2021 Piotr Butowski
https://aviationweek.com/shownews/dubai ... ter-market
&
First Flying Checkmate Aircraft Enter Assembly In Russia 15 Nov 2021 Steve Trimble
https://aviationweek.com/shownews/dubai ... bly-russia


Mikhail Strelets, head of Sukhoi Design Bureau, declared that the Checkmate’s flight-hour cost will be “seven times less” than an F-35’s.


I don't get why they need to BS as SAAB about cost per flight hour.

I understand they are trying to show it isn't more expensive then Gripen NG per flight hour, but then use Gripen NG cpfh not F-35 cpfh. F-35 cpfh is real cpfh while Gripen NG is marketing cpfh (only fuel and lubricants).
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Unread post15 Nov 2021, 22:12

Pictures from presentation at Dubai Air Show.
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