The 2008-retired F-117 is alive and well and....

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Unread post22 Oct 2020, 19:51

Supposedly being used as a secret stealth aggressor type for Red Flag.

So secret that two dropped into Miramar in the middle of the day yesterday.....

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Unread post28 Oct 2020, 16:15

It makes perfect sense though..

The F-22 fleet is tiny, and the F-35 units are still getting up to speed. F-117 is probably there to simulate the J-20 and/or the latest generation of Russian stealthy cruise missiles. The SU-57... frankly, I don't think they're very concerned about simulating something with a RCS the size of a Super Hornet.
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Unread post28 Oct 2020, 19:43

F-117 can't simulate J-20 nor Su-57. It is subsonic with awful agility.

Using F-22 with some reflectors to mimic estimated J-20/Su-57 RCS is lot more logical.
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Unread post29 Oct 2020, 04:53

milosh wrote:F-117 can't simulate J-20 nor Su-57. It is subsonic with awful agility.

Using F-22 with some reflectors to mimic estimated J-20/Su-57 RCS is lot more logical.

They aren't doing BFM, so the F-117s kinematics are irrelevant.
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Unread post29 Oct 2020, 16:38

wrightwing wrote:
milosh wrote:F-117 can't simulate J-20 nor Su-57. It is subsonic with awful agility.

Using F-22 with some reflectors to mimic estimated J-20/Su-57 RCS is lot more logical.

They aren't doing BFM, so the F-117s kinematics are irrelevant.


THIS...

Last I heard they were doing some offshore work in the Pacific, undoubtedly simulating attacks on our carrier battle groups. What they're doing inland though, is anyone's guess. BVR stuff, I'd imagine.
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Unread post01 Nov 2020, 22:19

milosh wrote:F-117 can't simulate J-20 nor Su-57. It is subsonic with awful agility.

Using F-22 with some reflectors to mimic estimated J-20/Su-57 RCS is lot more logical.


I wouldn't be surprised if the J-20 and F-117 have similar agility.
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Unread post02 Nov 2020, 14:39

J-20 doesn't look too bad at an airshow whereas the F-117 airshow is in line with its flight manual - which means anything outside of roll rate comparison forget it! :D

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