Eurofighter Typhoon

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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 17:38

hornetfinn wrote:I really wonder what he is referring to here? At least Danish evaluation didn't support this and I don't know of any other real and trustworthy data about operating costs.


The closest you'll get is the UK's recent Project Tytan. Like most things to do with Typhoon its the UK driving it forward. The cost per hour has been dramatically lowered, and is apparently on track to hit the goal of a similar per hour cost as F-16. The benefit to industry and the RAF is the cost savings are re-invested in upgrades and enhancements (with one of the goals of reducing the number of fleets within fleets).

As this is UK funded the other partners will need to pay to get the benefits of the UK's work, apparently Saudi, Qatar and Oman will be getting the benefits from the UK and BAE as part of their support arrangements

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Unread post12 Nov 2020, 14:14

Quadriga award launches Tranche 4 Eurofighter production for Germany
By Craig Hoyle, 12 November 2020

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/qu ... 07.article


Airbus Defence & Space has received a contract to build a Tranche 4 batch of 38 Eurofighters for the German air force, following recent parliamentary approval for the Project Quadriga acquisition.
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Germany had separately signed a contract in June to acquire 110 Captor-E Mk1 AESA radars for use with its existing Tranche 2- and 3-standard combat aircraft.
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“Its technical capabilities will allow full integration into the European Future Combat Air System,” Hoke adds (Airbus Defence & Space chief executive).
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With the Typhoon currently in production for export customers Kuwait and Qatar, the Eurofighter consortium is also anticipating a potential repeat purchase from Spain, which is seeking replacements for its Boeing F-18s.


Those will replace 31 Tranche 1 fighters. Tranche 2 & 3 will be upgraded with AESAs, apparently.

Oh and by the way the contract for those 38 is worth 5,4 billion euros.
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Unread post12 Nov 2020, 15:13

The point about Rafale being a more "well rounded" performer is probably spot on, especially if the requirements involve air to everything. Absurd cost though will prevent them from acquiring it in the numbers they want. To do that, they'll probably need to buy a hodge podge of Rafale's, Mig-35's and Tejas II (or III, or whatever they're up to now), LOL.

Every western jet under evaluation just seems like too much $, ditto for the European birds. Unless.... they buy used SH Block II's perhaps, from the US Navy? Some low hour airframes might be attractive, especially considering they'd be carrier capable. That way, India could get rid of their pesky Mig-29K's, or transfer them to fly from land bases.

In the end, they'll probably have to procure most airframes from Russia, build them at home, buy used or .... come to terms with a smaller fleet.
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Unread post12 Nov 2020, 16:29

has any nation actually ordered the CFTs for the Typhoon? Seems like that, TVC, and AMK all became a "hey check out ways to upgrade!" that no one bought.
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Unread post12 Nov 2020, 18:00

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:has any nation actually ordered the CFTs for the Typhoon? Seems like that, TVC, and AMK all became a "hey check out ways to upgrade!" that no one bought.


So far its only been mocked up in 2014. There are no working models as far as I can find. There was even talk at one time of an enlarged spine, but it never had any artwork to show what they meant. I assume they were using outline of two-seater to hide extra fuel behind the pilot.
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Unread post26 Nov 2020, 15:51

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:has any nation actually ordered the CFTs for the Typhoon? Seems like that, TVC, and AMK all became a "hey check out ways to upgrade!" that no one bought.


CFT's are officially dead. Aerodynamic issues apparently (according to Airbus). TVC was trialled on the ground but would cost a lot to implement for marginal gains (more for fuel efficiency than manoeuverability). The interesting one will be the AMK. It could well make an appearance on the Quadriga Typhoons and Spanish order, Germany in particular may be interested as they did the bulk of the development.
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