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KC-130T (mishap)

Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2017, 12:52
by weasel1962
KC-130T went down off Mississippi. Understand the plane was carrying 16 including from 2nd raider battalion. Deepest condolences for the loss.

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Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2017, 02:04
by oldtomcatairframer
It is very sad news. Looks to me they had a wing separation. Anybody have any idea how many flight hours were on this airframe? I am guessing around 30K since it is a 1993 build.

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Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2017, 00:14
by neptune
Fat Albert was chasing the Blue Angels this past weekend and in now grounded, today.

http://wkrg.com/2017/07/27/blue-angels- ... lar-plane/


The Blue Angels’ giant C-130 aircraft, affectionately nicknamed “Fat Albert,” is grounded as part of the investigation into a deadly crash involving a similar plane in Mississippi.
:shock:

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Unread postPosted: 29 Jul 2017, 03:00
by wbh
The Blue Angels plane "Fat Albert" , which is grounded ,is a former EC-130T (Tacamo ). T-models came after my PDM/SDLM period , so I'm not sure about configuration issues. I observe from the wreckage photo that the Plane Impacted in the vertical position ,the Ramp & Door are visible . The Vertical Fin (possibly only part ) was on the plane at the time of impact ( one of the ribs is visible aft of the horizontal stabiliser ). Eye witness reports indicated that the plane appeared to be in a spin. My first supposition is a large rudder excursion , followed by a departure from controlled flight. These are questions that I have for the readers .What kind of rudder boost pack for a"T"is it normal Hydraulic or Electrical ( Electrical were being considered ). In fact a vendor offered to equip my state of the art demonstrator ,LAC 3035 , with same but I declined in light of the Lockheed HTTB fatal crash with an experimental Electric Boost Pak installed. Lets keep this conversation alive we may uncover something.

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Unread postPosted: 29 Jul 2017, 05:18
by wbh
Correction the KC-130T landed in the inverted position not vertical.

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Unread postPosted: 02 Aug 2017, 07:29
by neptune
wbh wrote:The Blue Angels plane "Fat Albert" , which is grounded ,is a former EC-130T (Tacamo ). T-models came after my PDM/SDLM period , so I'm not sure about configuration issues. I observe from the wreckage photo that the Plane Impacted in the vertical position ,the Ramp & Door are visible . The Vertical Fin (possibly only part ) was on the plane at the time of impact ( one of the ribs is visible aft of the horizontal stabiliser ). Eye witness reports indicated that the plane appeared to be in a spin. My first supposition is a large rudder excursion , followed by a departure from controlled flight. These are questions that I have for the readers .What kind of rudder boost pack for a"T"is it normal Hydraulic or Electrical ( Electrical were being considered ). In fact a vendor offered to equip my state of the art demonstrator ,LAC 3035 , with same but I declined in light of the Lockheed HTTB fatal crash with an experimental Electric Boost Pak installed. Lets keep this conversation alive we may uncover something.


....two questions.
..what is the link for the referenced photos?
....what is the part that separated in flight to the distant second crash site?
:?:

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Unread postPosted: 02 Aug 2017, 13:41
by bobdaley
The grounded Fat Albert is a C-130T 164763 5258.
The current fill in is a KC-130T.
THere was never to my knowledge an EC-130T
Bob

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Unread postPosted: 02 Aug 2017, 14:36
by wbh
This is a good question . I have only seen one photo. The photo that is in the article looks like it came down intact & inverted. There is at least one vertical fin rib visible a large one indicating a lower one. One would think that if the whole Vertical fin came down with the plane more would be visible. Perhaps that was the part at the other site , without the photo who knows ?

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Unread postPosted: 03 Aug 2017, 22:27
by wbh
Dear BOBDALY I think I got my "T"'S & "Q"'S mixed up .

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Unread postPosted: 04 Aug 2017, 12:43
by mekong68
wbh wrote:Dear BOBDALY I think I got my "T"'S & "Q"'S mixed up .


Found this on Google: TACAMO...The program was expanded in 1966 using modified C-130s designated Lockheed EC-130G/Q carrying a VLF system built by Collins Radio Company.

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Unread postPosted: 05 Aug 2017, 00:25
by wbh
This is true Mekong , I was TACAMO project pilot at Marietta & lake City.

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Unread postPosted: 05 Sep 2017, 11:00
by cot900
Has anyone heard anything about what happened to cause this? To verify the previous post, the TACAMO birds were all G's and Q's. Four G's and the rest Q's. I did three tours as an engineer before the E-6 took over.

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Unread postPosted: 05 Sep 2017, 13:21
by mekong68
cot900 wrote:Has anyone heard anything about what happened to cause this? To verify the previous post, the TACAMO birds were all G's and Q's. Four G's and the rest Q's. I did three tours as an engineer before the E-6 took over.


Has anything been said? Are they even flying again yet? Haven't heard anything regarding this at all.

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Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2017, 23:52
by h-bomb
Has anyone seen a picture of the separated section? All the news stories on this claim it broke up. However I have never found a picture "this is the part that fell off".

To my untrained eye, it looks rather intact. I only got to pick up a F-15 from Langley that crashed on takeoff. Pilot ejected and witnesses saw one of his engines fail. No one died, and no mysteries. Other they how he managed to land on top of his burning aircraft. He literally went from the frying pan to the fire. How do you even train for that....

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Unread postPosted: 24 Sep 2017, 23:28
by wbh
That's the second time I've heard of an ejected pilot landing in the flames of his own plane . The other involved a Thunderbird Pilot landing in the fire of his own plane , back when the Thunderbirds flew F-4's. Both were low altitude ejections.