Serial for Egyptian Hercules crash 21 Sep 2014 - 78-0759

bobdaley · by **bobdaley** » 17 Nov 2014, 14:44

Does anyone know the tail number or the Lockheed number of the Herk that crashed a couple of months ago.

Thanks
Bob

Jon · by **Jon** » 05 Dec 2014, 17:13

Yeah, no one seems to know the aircraft involved.

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Jon · by **Jon** » 18 Feb 2015, 21:25

Current political climate likely means we may not know for a while. But just in case, does anyone out there know the serial?

Hercmaster · by **Hercmaster** » 25 Feb 2015, 16:10

Hi Jon,

New here but I was thinking that a fairly easy way to find out would be to compare a picture of the crash with images of all EAF C-130s and check the paint schemes.

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Here's a list of all Egyptian C-130s I drew from the database that have not been written off yet:

73-1678 1296
73-1679 1297
73-1680 1298
76-1598 1270/SU-BAA [xx]
76-1599 1271/SU-BAB [xx] http://www.cavok.com.br/blog/wp-content ... -Egypt.jpg
76-1600 1272/SU-BAC [xx]
76-1601 1273/SU-BAD [xx] https://www.flickr.com/photos/114090013 ... 931978863/
76-1602 1274/SU-BAE [xx] http://rickinghamphotography.co.uk/site ... g_8217.jpg
76-1603 1275/SU-BAF [xx] http://www.airliners.net/photo/Egypt--- ... b42dcdd69c http://www.airliners.net/photo/Egypt--- ... b42dcdd69c (spotted on Oman, December 6, 2014)
78-0755 1276/SU-BAH [w/o]
78-0756 1277/SU-BAI [xx] http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-p ... 141036.jpg http://www.libhomeradar.org/aircraft/SU-BAI.html (latest contact 2015/01/20 15:12)
78-0757 1278/SU-BAJ [xx] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... e-prg-lkpr http://photos.plane-mad.com/42/large/42669.jpg
78-0758 1279/SU-BAK [xx] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... T-85-03691 http://www.pixstel.com/egyptian-af-c-13 ... b12314.php http://lockonaviation.net/images/2005/2 ... 30H__1.jpg
78-0759 1280/SU-BAL [?]
78-0760 1281/SU-BAM [xx] https://www.flickr.com/photos/bwi2muc/4315887833/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/olivier_m ... 009984895/
78-0761 1282/SU-BAN [xx] http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=243344 http://i.planepictures.net/77/65/1223998796.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/planes/4115795128/
78-0762 1283/SU-BAP [xx] Close https://nl.flightaware.com/photos/view/ ... 6/size/vga Contact in 2015 http://www.libhomeradar.org/aircraft/SU-BAP.html
78-0763 1284/SU-BAQ [xx] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... 167C-060-2 http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=883462
78-0764 1285/SU-BAR [xx] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/up ... 988x3072_f http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/ph ... 52454.html http://546.airliners.net/photo/Egypt%20 ... album=hide
78-0765 1286/SU-BAS [xx] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... -Force_2_w http://flightaware.com/photos/view/5811 ... 4/size/xga
78-0766 1287/SU-BAT [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/var/resizes/c-1 ... 1371902078 - Close though not exactly the same paint scheme. Anyone has more pictures?
78-0767 1288/SU-BAU [x] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23032926@N05/5258551630 - Close
78-0768 1289/SU-BAV [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... G_ICARcz-5
82-0086 1290/SU-BEW [x] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23032926@N05/5265832573
82-0087 1291/SU-BEX [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... 28L-382_29
82-0088 1292/SU-BEY [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... tos/C130-1
5187 1293/SU-BKS [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... U-BKS3-2ps
5191 1294/SU-BKT [x] http://www.c-130.net/g3/c-130-photos/Af ... hotos/1294
5206 1295/SU-BKU [x] http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/e ... teresting/

I might have to double check some of the other serials but I strongly suspect the crashed C-130H was:
78-0759 1280/SU-BAL.

Have a look for yourself:

From the right: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Egypt--- ... b590c124e5
From the left: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Egypt--- ... 1572513/L/

It might also be good to check spotter reports of Egyptian C-130s that have been seen after Sep 2014.

Mich

Asif · by **Asif** » 26 Feb 2015, 09:57

Hi Mich,

Thanks for looking into this one and welcome to the forum. Your evidence is very compelling and this could 'possibly' be 'SU-BAL' that was lost C-130 from Egypt. Shame there has not been any confirmation about the this from any sources.

Anyone got a photo of SU-BAL we can use to update the database?

Asif

bobdaley · by **bobdaley** » 26 Feb 2015, 15:54

There's this picture on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrischen ... TEn-7PPTtZ

Bob

Hercmaster · by **Hercmaster** » 26 Feb 2015, 21:41

I've put the photos side by side. It's not 100% conclusive to me yet but can't find a better matching paint scheme:

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Whity · by **Whity** » 26 Feb 2015, 21:46

Anyone who can tell what this is?

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Jon · by **Jon** » 27 Feb 2015, 01:10

Hercmaster wrote:I've put the photos side by side. It's not 100% conclusive to me yet but can't find a better matching paint scheme:

78-0759_1280_SU-BAL.jpg

The two on the right I would say don't quite match.

raameagle · by **raameagle** » 08 Jul 2015, 22:02

I think the aircraft that crashed has to be one of the following:

1285/SU-BAR
1287/SU-BAT
1289/SU-BAV
1296/SU-BPJ
1298[SU-BPL]

All of the other Egyptian C-130s have been noted since October 2014. I suspect it is one of the first three because I believe 1296 and 1298 (ex Danish) are still in their original grey paint scheme.

Regards

mekong68 · by **mekong68** » 09 Jul 2015, 14:54

Whity wrote:Anyone who can tell what this is?

If I'm not mistaken, that is the old style VOR antenna. It was a box type antenna that was slid into the vertical from teh left side and then attached via screws on both sides (metal doublers attached to acft on right side, doublers attached to antenna box on left side). The system has since been replaced/deactivated...the box stayed in place and blade antennas were added to both the left and right sides (see pix below).

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Whity · by **Whity** » 09 Jul 2015, 23:15

mekong68 wrote:
Whity wrote:Anyone who can tell what this is?

If I'm not mistaken, that is the old style VOR antenna. It was a box type antenna that was slid into the vertical from teh left side and then attached via screws on both sides (metal doublers attached to acft on right side, doublers attached to antenna box on left side). The system has since been replaced/deactivated...the box stayed in place and blade antennas were added to both the left and right sides.

Thank you for clarifying that!