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USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 10 Mar 2018, 19:20
by discofishing
http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/ ... elicopter/


According to the above article the USAF took 21 surplus US Army UH-60Ls and converted them to HH-60G Pavehawks.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... hh-423249/


Additionally, the USAF have been flying UH-1Ns there were previously in service with the USMC.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fu ... ry&id=5349

This is hilarious!

Re: USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2018, 03:22
by durahawk
discofishing wrote:http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/816471/af-introduces-first-fully-built-hh-60g-ops-loss-replacement-helicopter/


According to the above article the USAF took 21 surplus US Army UH-60Ls and converted them to HH-60G Pavehawks.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... hh-423249/


Additionally, the USAF have been flying UH-1Ns there were previously in service with the USMC.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fu ... ry&id=5349

This is hilarious!


I'm not sure I would find the situation "Hilarious" especially since the article left out the detail that the USAF is paying the Army's bill for brand new Mike models so they can get the Army's second hand Lima's.

This whole thing should have been solved decades ago, even before the CSAR-X debacle, but here we are. I think the most frustrating thing is that the USAF will be missing the boat on FVL for quite some time. A 250 kt SB>1 Defiant would no doubt be a game changer for CSAR...

Re: USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2018, 05:11
by discofishing
durahawk wrote:
discofishing wrote:http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/816471/af-introduces-first-fully-built-hh-60g-ops-loss-replacement-helicopter/


According to the above article the USAF took 21 surplus US Army UH-60Ls and converted them to HH-60G Pavehawks.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... hh-423249/


Additionally, the USAF have been flying UH-1Ns there were previously in service with the USMC.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fu ... ry&id=5349

This is hilarious!


I'm not sure I would find the situation "Hilarious" especially since the article left out the detail that the USAF is paying the Army's bill for brand new Mike models so they can get the Army's second hand Lima's.

This whole thing should have been solved decades ago, even before the CSAR-X debacle, but here we are. I think the most frustrating thing is that the USAF will be missing the boat on FVL for quite some time. A 250 kt SB>1 Defiant would no doubt be a game changer for CSAR...


Do you have any additional links I can read that shed light on this situation in which the USAF buys the Army Mikes and gets Larrys in return? If this is true that would be even more hilarious! Poor Pedro! Hahaha!

Re: USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2018, 08:00
by h-bomb
This is not actually that new. The USAF used ex USMC/Navy H-53s over the years.

A few attrition airframes and old A models as trainers.

Re: USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2018, 15:29
by discofishing
It's news for service members of non-USAF branches that are used to getting the short end of the stick while watching the AF go TDY in hotels while they
(ARMY/USMC) are left with a sleeping bag and the ground with MREs.

Re: USAF flies former US Army UH-60 Blackhawks

Unread postPosted: 15 Apr 2018, 17:16
by mc5wes
I'm not sure I would find the situation "Hilarious" especially since the article left out the detail that the USAF is paying the Army's bill for brand new Mike models so they can get the Army's second hand Lima's.

Didn't they need the L models to keep all of the Pave Hawks as similar as possible using the same block model?