Tupolev-22M3 Crash Video

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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 05:03

Date on video should be 2019? Most news says 2019 date a few days ago whilst there are some or no survivors? Dunno.

All Tupolev-22M3 grounded till end of probe into Tuesday’s crash near 22 Jan 2019

http://tass.com/emergencies/1041212

Footage of the Russian Tu-22M3 Bomber Crashing at Olenegorsk AB(Murmansk Region) on Jan 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHMSSU_XyxU [nothing happens until one minute and ten seconds waiting in snow]

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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 06:53

holy.... :shock:
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 11:25

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:holy.... :shock:


3 of 4 crewman dead. It's a miracle anyone survived. RIP... :(
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 12:07

Story with short video + stills from video:
"A video shows the exact moment the jet's fuselage buckles having bounced off the runway, splitting the aircraft in two " https://static-entertainment-eas-s-msn- ... e151e5.gif


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/sh ... ar-BBSMC2s
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 12:17

Surreal. Where were they landing? A divert-divert-divert field? Flightline isn't plowed and there's not a signal light in sight?

If you play the video at 0.25x speed, you can actually see aft starboard undercarriage snag something and buckle. I don't think the pilot landed it too hard, looks like the plane hit something on the runway.

For the inquiring, cameraman does not say much, just "Plane #35, major Buriev(?), landing. ***. Yes, it crashed. Should we come closer?"
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 15:27

It's Olenegorsk, and no, the R MLG doesn't buckle, it's just poor video compression. You can clearly see the nose section bending as soon as it touches down.
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 17:03

My God - RIP

The descent rate looks high prior to the touchdown.
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Unread post27 Jan 2019, 23:05

It appears that the airframe just could not take the landing shock impact on the snow at that speed and angle. A corner case exceed scenario with tragic outcomes. I am assuming there was nothing wrong with that particular airframe.
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Unread post28 Jan 2019, 00:05

I got an image of that F-15 that broke it's back when a longeron failed during flight.
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Unread post28 Jan 2019, 01:16

Landed a little hard and fast you think ?
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Unread post28 Jan 2019, 03:09

https://defence-blog.com/news/russian-t ... nding.html

A western aviation expert said most analysts had begun to think that a broken instrument landing system or ILS may be to blame for a “hard” landing of Russian bomber.

“The rate of descent is much too high for a landing, this suggests the pilot did not know what his attitude was on finals – visibility was really poor so this was clearly a blind ILS letdown. Not surprise the jet snapped in half on impact.,” said expert.

“It could be a broken ILS. When you fly blind letdown you follow the ILS indicators to maintain the proper angle of descent and rate of descent. He was descending much too fast – usually once you reach maybe 30 metres altitude, you back off the power and pull the nose back slightly to slow down, ” – he added.

The Tu-22M3 Backfire supersonic strike bomber bounced off the runway, breaking the back of the aircraft, sending the cockpit cartwheeling into the ground as the rest of the jet bursts into flames.

The expert also noted that: “He [pilot] flew the Backfire into the runway in the way you would land an F/A-18 on a carrier ship deck. This tells me he did not know how high he was and may have had a broken ILS. Fault could be ground equipment or ILS receiver on the jet – impossible to say. The official story was that he he tried to land too heavy. This is possible but if you are too heavy you slow the rate of descent by using more power and angle-of-attack, ie you hold the nose higher. To me it looks like he had no idea how fast he was descending.”
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Unread post28 Jan 2019, 04:08

marsavian wrote:https://defence-blog.com/news/russian-tu-22m3-crash-expert-says-instrument-landing-system-to-blame-hard-landing.html

“The rate of descent is much too high for a landing, this suggests the pilot did not know what his attitude was on finals ... To me it looks like he had no idea how fast he was descending.”


Hence a second pilot to look for the visual contact while the flying-pilot reads flight data for a stabilized finals. Once the non-flying pilot makes visual contact, the flying-pilot can transition to a visual finals. But looks like he couldn't see sh*t when he tried a visual transition, as the runway was as white as everything else. i.e. no visual reference available, and no time left to re-assimilate flight data to 'see' the problem (avionics warnings and verbal audio should have alerted them both of the sink rate though).
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Unread post28 Jan 2019, 14:53

The runway was not cleaned.
The poor guys had no visual ref points.
And in that weather? ?
RIP, this was avoidable in multiple ways.
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Unread post30 Jan 2019, 04:58

vilters wrote:RIP, this was avoidable in multiple ways.

Please... enlighten us.
What was the cause?
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Unread post30 Jan 2019, 11:24

huggy wrote:
vilters wrote:RIP, this was avoidable in multiple ways.

Please... enlighten us.
What was the cause?


Landing on another airfield because it look like that airfield had some nasty local blizzard, but it is still questionally becuase it is AB in Murmansk and Murmansk winter is just like that so if that is normal then they probable land in that conditions using ILS.

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