C-5 down at Dover

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Unread post15 Apr 2006, 12:59

I always thought it would be a b**** to survive a crash in a C-5 or C-141, breathe a sigh of relief as the airframe finally came to a stop in one piece, and then s*** a brick as one or more pallets broke loose and headed my way as I stared at them open-mouthed.
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Unread post17 Apr 2006, 21:07

Lucky folks for sure.....Cutlessracer......Please hold on giving any other details of what was or wasn't done at your facility with this aircraft.

No need to disclose any additional information, keep that close...hold on to the urge to share that information.

You might get yourself into something you don't wish for (just a caution for you) that repair information might be considered USAF "proprietary" since it was a possible repair (as you suggested) at a DoD facility, please don't disclose any other information along this line unless it is cleared through Base Public Affairs Office.

Thank you........

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Unread post05 May 2006, 19:15

C-5 recovery efforts continue at Dover

by Staff Sgt. James Wilkinson
436th Airlift Wing Public Affairs

5/5/2006 - DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. (AFPN) -- One month after a C-5 Galaxy crash-landed less than a mile short of the runway here, recovery operations are proceeding on schedule, officials said. All 17 people on board survived the April 3 crash.

“We started the recovery effort the same day of the mishap and have been working every day since,” said Maj. Rob Triplett, the 436th Maintenance Squadron commander and director of the mishap recovery effort. “Safety has been our number-one priority. Our team’s primary focus, besides safety, was to preserve vital evidence for the safety investigation board.”

An 11-person team from the 653rd Combat Logistics Support Squadron at Robins Air Force Base, Ga., along with C-5 engineers and maintenance personnel from Dover are conducting a thorough recovery of the aircraft.

“The most difficult part is coming up with all the variables and solutions to problems,” said Chief Master Sgt. Jon Lynn, 436th MXS superintendent. “It takes teamwork to get everybody together to decide what the best plan and the best course of action are to take.”

Recovery efforts included removing the remaining fuel, the engines, the left wing tip and cargo.

“Some fuel was spilled, but we were able to recover the majority of the fuel from the aircraft itself,” Major Triplett said. “Protecting the environment and protecting the community are high priorities. (The community's) safety is of the utmost importance.”

The base is coordinating with the Delaware Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control concerning any environmental clean-up issues.

“The agreement at this point is that once the aircraft and the parts are gone, we will do a full assessment in close coordination with DNREC to make a decision on what type of remediation methods will be used for the cleanup,” said Lt. Col. Mark Ruse, the 436th Civil Engineer Squadron commander.

The nose section was moved first to make room for equipment to level the aircraft, Major Triplett said. The airframe needed to be stabilized to remove the cargo and engines. Hydraulic jacks were used to level the aircraft, which was supported by more than 1,000 railroad ties.

“We were able to remove the cargo," the major said. "Any cargo that was damaged will go back to the shipping activity to be either repaired or replaced. The cargo that was undamaged was put back into the system for movement to its destination.”

The crew compartment, weighing more than 13,000 pounds, was removed with a crane. Once it is released by the accident investigation board, the compartment is expected to be used as a training simulator at Robins, Major Triplett said.

When the board releases the aircraft, recovery experts anticipate they will be able to reuse approximately 1,100 parts after they have undergone extensive inspections. The remainder of the aircraft will be salvaged on site, the major said.

Heavy equipment such as cranes, forklifts and high-reach vehicles is being used to remove and salvage the aircraft. Experts also are using power saws to cut up the structure.

All parts of the aircraft will remain on the site until released by the accident investigation board. Once investigations are complete, results should be released three months later.
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Unread post22 May 2006, 18:46

There were at least 15 people on board this C-5. Some of those sitting in the passenger area were pretty severely hurt.


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Unread post28 Jun 2006, 03:32

In case you missed it. Here is the official word on how to screw a C-5 into the ground tail first. A round of applause for the flight crew please.

SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, Ill (AFPN) -- The results of an investigation into the
C-5 Galaxy crash at Dover Air Force Base, Del., on April 3 found that human
error was the cause, Air Mobility Command officials released today.

The accident investigation board determined the pilots and flight engineers did
not properly configure, maneuver and power the aircraft during approach and

Following a normal takeoff and initial climb, the C-5 aircrew observed a No. 2
engine "Thrust Reverser Not Locked" indication light. They shut down the No. 2
engine as a precaution and returned to Dover AFB. The board determined that
during the return to the base:

-- The pilots and flight engineers continued to use the shut-down No. 2 engine's
throttle while leaving the fully-operational No. 3 engine in idle.

-- Both instructor and primary flight engineers failed to brief, and pilots
failed to consider and use, a proper flap setting.

-- The pilots' attempt at a visual approach to runway 32 resulted in the
aircraft descending well below a normal glidepath for an instrument-aided
approach or the normal visual flight rules pattern altitude.

-- The aircraft commander failed to give a complete approach briefing that would
have included non-standard factors, configuration, landing distance and missed
approach intentions.

All 17 people on board the C-5 survived the crash, but three crewmembers were
seriously injured when the aircraft stalled, hit a utility pole and crashed into
a field about a mile short of the runway. The other passengers and crewmembers
sustained minor injures and were treated and released from local hospitals.

The aircraft was assigned to the 436th Airlift Wing and was flown by members of
the 512th Airlift Wing, a Reserve associate unit at Dover. It was bound for
Ramstein Air Base, Germany, and was carrying 105,000 pounds of replenishment
supplies for the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility.
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