IAF Su-30MKI Crash

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Unread post24 May 2015, 06:55

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150520/j ... WFl-ZqwpJ8


Sukhoi-30 crashes in Nagaon - Aircraft crew eject safely
Tezpur, May 19: A Sukhoi-30 fighter plane of the Indian Air Force (IAF) crashed at that the Su-30 fighter was on its way from Tezpur Salonibari air force station on a routine training sortie when the incident occurred. While the two pilots on the plane ejected safely, the aircraft crashed in a paddy field, injuring a woman..
Former IAF vice-chief Air Marshal P.K. Barbora, during whose tenure the Sukhois were inducted at Tezpur, today said while the Su-30MKI was a state-of-the-art fighter jet, it had been plagued by engine trouble. There are also issues with the serviceability of the aircraft compared to Mirage 2000, he said. "But the good thing is that it has two engines," he told The Telegraph over phone from New Delhi.

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Unread post25 May 2015, 02:48

And that second engine is always helpful in getting you to the scene of your crash.
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Unread post25 May 2015, 16:39

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... crash.html

The first Russian-made Sukhoi was accepted by the IAF in 2002, and the first indigenously assembled Su-30MKI entered service in 2004.

The first Su-30MKI crashed in the Pokhran region of Rajasthan in April 2009, following which the entire fleet was grounded for around three weeks. The then defence minister, A.K. Antony, said it was due to failure of the fly-by-wire system.

On November 30, 2009, another plane crashed in Rajasthan and the fleet was grounded once again. The crash was attributed to accidental ingestion of a foreign object in the engine intake.

Another crash took place near Pune in December 2011, and again in Pokhran in February 2013. In October 2014, a crash near Pune led to longest grounding of the fleet for almost a month.

A court of inquiry into the crash, however, remained inconclusive.

Asked about this, Parrikar said: "Not every inquiry reaches a conclusion. It remained inconclusive."

According to defence ministry figures, around Rs.2,264 crore ($355 million) was spent on the upkeep of Sukhoi jets between 2011 and 2014. India has 10 squadrons of 200 Su-30MKIs at present, and at least 70 more are to be inducted in the next few years.

The Su-30s make up almost a third of India’s fighter jets.

Interestingly, a recent report of a parliamentary panel on defence expressed concern over the lack of shelters for the jets.

According to the report, the committee was informed that the Su-30MKIs were parked outside as they could not fit into existing hardened shelters. The committee expressed concern over the situation, saying it is "extremely pertinent" that no damage is caused to the available aircraft.

The committee said New Generation Hardened Aircraft Shelter (NGHAS) should be provided for the jets.



I wonder how many times the MKI actual did make it back to base on one engine and thereby saved the aircraft.
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Unread post26 May 2015, 00:05

Do the Russians even consider single engine designs when contemplating building a new jet?
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Unread post26 May 2015, 09:26

popcorn wrote:Do the Russians even consider single engine designs when contemplating building a new jet?

Not recently, ever since the MiG-23. The Yak-141 realistically doesn't count as it has 3 engines, two of which are used for vertical takeoff. They just don't have engines of sufficient power and reliability to do so.
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Unread post26 May 2015, 14:55

What do you want?

Their MTBF and MTBO are not exactly confidense builders.

PS: Two engines is => Double Trouble. :-)
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Unread post26 May 2015, 20:47

vilters wrote:What do you want?

Their MTBF and MTBO are not exactly confidense builders.

PS: Two engines is => Double Trouble. :-)

Just for the record, F-14A were notorious for their single-engine performance. Even the F/A-18 can be a handful on a single engine. The classic example is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_San_D ... A-18_crash where the pilot didn't realize a fuel system malfunction was about to flameout the second engine. There is a significant number of incidents where a F/A-18 pilot shuts down one engine, such as a low oil pressure warning, as a precaution.

I've heard the Russian training recommended ejecting out, rather than landing a jet with significant damage. A single engine landing is possible in the Flanker, but not without risk. If a Russian Flanker lands, but requires freighting back to depot for a lengthy repair, the advantage is debatable.
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Unread post26 May 2015, 22:24

Honestly, I miss the times when Russians made single engine aircraft.

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