F-117 Combat losses

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Unread post01 Dec 2008, 09:05

One F-117 was shot down during the '99 Kosovo conflict.
However, there was supposedly another that got hit by SAM fire, but made it home. Supposedly, it never flew again. If true, what happened to it after the Kosovo conflict?
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Unread post01 Dec 2008, 15:03

I've heard that it went into storage at Tonopah. What was useable was canned, and the rest of the plane sat, likely in the same hangar where the rest of the fleet now lives. Hope this helps.

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Unread post13 Dec 2008, 05:36

Nope. Not even good guesses. They flew quite well after we fixed what "fell off".:shock:
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Unread post06 Aug 2015, 09:27

Any evidence for this second hit claim or just Serbian claims ?
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Unread post06 Aug 2015, 15:52

maddog2840 wrote:Nope. Not even good guesses. They flew quite well after we fixed what "fell off".:shock:


"They" ???? - Does that mean there was(were) more than one that got damged?
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Unread post06 Aug 2015, 16:20

Bird strike.
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Unread post06 Aug 2015, 22:23

huggy wrote: hit by SAM fire, but made it home.


Huggy!
Believe it or not, it's happened but everyone who heard the story said these guys are crazy (referring to the SAM crew).
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Unread post06 Aug 2015, 22:53

Shouldn't the title be changed to "F-117 Combat loss"
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Unread post07 Aug 2015, 04:15

Hmm i heard story about Mig-29 cannon and F-117,I doubt that after the missile strike the plane would have survived.
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Unread post07 Aug 2015, 15:35

Colonel Zoltan Dani whom his unit shutdown the F-117 denies the second claim
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Unread post15 Aug 2015, 21:58

since they downed a stealth plane ... Why they ( Serbs ) couldn't drop non-stealth plane (apart from 1 F-16 later in the war ) ??!!
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Unread post16 Aug 2015, 21:28

Because they were extremely lucky to get the F-117 in the first place.
1. They knew where the F-117s were coming from.
2. They knew when the F-117s were coming.
3. They knew the route they were going to take.
4. They had 8 F-117s to shoot at
5. The F-117 flew directly towards them
6. The F-117 had no RWR to know that they SAM was in the area
7. The F-117 flew within 10km before they took a shot.
8. They launched two missiles at the F-117 and BOTH missed direct hits
9. Only one missile's proximity fuse detected the F-117 and detonated within lethal range.
10. It did not destroy the F-117, rather it crippled it.
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Unread post16 Aug 2015, 22:52

SpudmanWP wrote:Because they were extremely lucky to get the F-117 in the first place.
1. They knew where the F-117s were coming from.
2. They knew when the F-117s were coming.
3. They knew the route they were going to take.
4. They had 8 F-117s to shoot at
5. The F-117 flew directly towards them
6. The F-117 had no RWR to know that they SAM was in the area
7. The F-117 flew within 10km before they took a shot.
8. They launched two missiles at the F-117 and BOTH missed direct hits
9. Only one missile's proximity fuse detected the F-117 and detonated within lethal range.
10. It did not destroy the F-117, rather it crippled it.

That's what I am saying
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Unread post17 Aug 2015, 23:17

Poor planning. The F-117 was the only plane in the war to fly the same routes at the same times every night.
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Unread post17 Aug 2015, 23:34

Maybe because the F-117A is a man-operated cruise missile. The pilot is flying programmed routes while they operate the on board systems. The F-117A required manual switching for everything from deploying navigation sensors to communication antennas. The pilot turned into a back seater near the target from what I have heard and trusted the machine to keep him on course while he deployed the bombs. The pilot may have been dependent on autopilot, which may not have been nearly as smart planning routes to way points.
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