Putin unveils new Russian nuclear arsenal

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Unread post12 Mar 2018, 01:56

If his rockets are as good as his PAK-FA-fantasie?
We have nothing to fear.

But, then again? ? ?
Who is still flying to the International Space Museum? :shock:
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Unread post12 Mar 2018, 02:11

We can expect to see more and more Russian Propaganda with time. As the country slips further and further behind China, India, and the US.
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Unread post12 Mar 2018, 10:18

Corsair1963 wrote:We can expect to see more and more Russian Propaganda with time. As the country slips further and further behind China, India, and the US.

^This indeed^

This whole thread is a nice example of that:
* News of Russia with a new "superweapon" .
* Links posted to Russian state run sites like RT.
* Truth bending by assuming state policies and historical "facts".

Quite a waste of precious discussion time.
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Unread post12 Mar 2018, 11:54

Mattis Sees No Change in Russian Military Capability in Light of Putin’s Speech

https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Ar ... ns-speech/

Russia disagrees

https://www.rt.com/usa/421009-mattis-po ... n-weapons/

Regardless of where the truth lies there is not much doubt that hypersonic aircraft and weapons is the next big step in military aviation, unless they can ever get directed energy weapons to be effective.
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Unread post20 Mar 2018, 21:35

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President Trump on Tuesday congratulated Russian President Vladimir Putin on his reelection and said he wants to meet with the Russian leader to discuss the “arms race” between their two nations.

“I suspect we'll probably be meeting in the not too distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control,” Trump said.

The president spoke to reporters in the Oval Office after what he described as a “very good call” with Putin, two days after the Russian president won another six-year term, a widely expected result in an election marred by fraud accusations.
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Unread post20 Mar 2018, 22:40

Hypersonic is fine for niche work, but it's never going to reach wide-scale use.
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 00:04

madrat wrote:Hypersonic is fine for niche work, but it's never going to reach wide-scale use.


Bingo.

They'll make a terrific flashy scarey distraction while other systems take the OPFOR apart, while they're still preoccupied with the hypersonics show.

Not to mention ... what will they cost, per bang?
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 01:03

At the rate Putin is running Russia into the ground. It will likely collapse in the near future. Just as the former Soviet Union did......


So, why would the US want to end an Arms Race with Russia??? :doh:
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 04:31

Corsair1963 wrote:At the rate Putin is running Russia into the ground. It will likely collapse in the near future. Just as the former Soviet Union did......


So, why would the US want to end an Arms Race with Russia??? :doh:


Erm... Maybe because arms races aren't often desirable? This isn't the 60's, I don't think it is in anyone's best interest to see how many weapons they can stockpile.

I do agree that Russia is done. They are not going back to the glory days of old, whenever those were. Putin is basically the last gasp of a dying empire; Russia might seem scary with all their nukes and tanks, but they are not heading in a long term sustainable direction. The demographics aren't there for them, and the economy of the future can't just rely on oil and mineral exports.So the talk of them being a superpower again is ridiculous. They have been replaced by China as the world's anti-western regime, and that clearly make them unhappy and desperate to fix that.
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 08:52

This is the type of rationale that the Russians have been using to justify all these new weapons to their public.

United Nations, 13 October. / TASS /. The US missile defense system already today provides not only detection of the launch, but also the possibility of intercepting Russian ballistic missiles. This was stated by the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Alexander Yemelyanov during the Russian-Chinese missile defense briefing on the margins of the first committee of the UN General Assembly.

"The information and reconnaissance assets of the US missile defense system now provide not only the detection of the launch of Russian ballistic missiles, their escort on the flight trajectory, but also the delivery of target designations to the anti-missile defense complexes for intercepting combat blocks of ballistic missiles," Yemelyanov said.

The representative of the Ministry of Defense cited examples of hypothetical scenarios for intercepting Russian missiles by American missiles.

In particular, one of the scenarios assumes the interception of the Russian intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) by a missile defense complex located on the US warship in the Baltic Sea. Yemelyanov noted that during the simulation of this scenario, conducted by Russian specialists, "the interception was successful and was carried out even at the ascending stage of the intercontinental ballistic missile flight."

In another scenario, RF specialists simulated the interception of a ballistic missile launched from a Russian submarine in the Barents Sea. Hypothetical interception was carried out from a US ABM ship with the "Standard-3" anti-missiles in the Norwegian Sea.

"The presented results of the simulation show that taking into account the high speed of the interceptor, the interception of the target in both cases is possible even at the initial stage of the flight," Yemelyanov said.

In the third scenario, Russian experts simulated the interception of ICBMs launched from the central part of Russia by an anti-missile from the territory of the United States.

Emelyanov also added that the US can secretly arm the universal missile systems of its ABM system deployed in Europe with cruise missiles. Then under the sights of cruise missiles will be the entire European part of Russia.

He noted that the universal Mk-41 launchers, from which anti-ballistic missiles and cruise missiles are launched on ships, are used on US missile defense bases in Romania and Poland.

"The thesis that in the ground version the Mk-41 launchers allegedly lose the ability to launch cruise missiles is unconvincing.The replacement of anti-missile missiles on European missile defense bases with cruise missiles ... can be carried out secretly and in a short time.In this case, at the sight of cruise missiles will be the entire European part of Russia, "said Yemelyanov.

He drew attention to the fact that the possibility of using a ship launcher in a ground version for placing cruise missiles "is a direct violation of the obligations under the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate and Shorter-Range Missiles."

"Russian concerns about violations of international obligations on the part of the US we repeatedly brought to American partners, there is no reaction," the representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Source: http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4641843
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 11:55

Is there any info about nuclear jet engine for new cruise missile? I thought it was only concept but I saw Putin said they tested cruise missile in 2017. It would be interesting to see is it open cycle engine or closed but I doubt they will reveled it.

If it is closed cycle or can be modified to be close cycle then that is ideal engine for aew uav Russia need.
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 12:35

milosh wrote:Is there any info about nuclear jet engine for new cruise missile? I thought it was only concept but I saw Putin said they tested cruise missile in 2017. It would be interesting to see is it open cycle engine or closed but I doubt they will reveled it.

If it is closed cycle or can be modified to be close cycle then that is ideal engine for aew uav Russia need.

Please elaborate. What is "closed cycle" and "open cycle" as it pertains to nuclear propulsion? Having a nuke-powered UAVs flying over Russia seems a good way to poison the countryside. :devil:
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Unread post21 Mar 2018, 17:43

popcorn wrote:
milosh wrote:Is there any info about nuclear jet engine for new cruise missile? I thought it was only concept but I saw Putin said they tested cruise missile in 2017. It would be interesting to see is it open cycle engine or closed but I doubt they will reveled it.

If it is closed cycle or can be modified to be close cycle then that is ideal engine for aew uav Russia need.

Please elaborate. What is "closed cycle" and "open cycle" as it pertains to nuclear propulsion? Having a nuke-powered UAVs flying over Russia seems a good way to poison the countryside. :devil:


I meant indirect air cycle, direct air cycle would be ecological diaster and is only useful in nuclear war. So it would be interesting to see what air cycle they used on missile, very likely direct air cycle but size of reactor is very small if they use KH-101 sized missile so maybe it could evlove in indirect variant for uav.
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Unread post22 Mar 2018, 00:53

milosh wrote:
popcorn wrote:
milosh wrote:Is there any info about nuclear jet engine for new cruise missile? I thought it was only concept but I saw Putin said they tested cruise missile in 2017. It would be interesting to see is it open cycle engine or closed but I doubt they will reveled it.

If it is closed cycle or can be modified to be close cycle then that is ideal engine for aew uav Russia need.

Please elaborate. What is "closed cycle" and "open cycle" as it pertains to nuclear propulsion? Having a nuke-powered UAVs flying over Russia seems a good way to poison the countryside. :devil:


I meant indirect air cycle, direct air cycle would be ecological diaster and is only useful in nuclear war. So it would be interesting to see what air cycle they used on missile, very likely direct air cycle but size of reactor is very small if they use KH-101 sized missile so maybe it could evlove in indirect variant for uav.


Putin's not an even remotely credible source in my view, especially during a 'democratic' election, which is itself a total farce. (same applies to all of the other commies-in-drag now pretending to be luved leaders of dah peeples)

So what does 'tested mean?

Proof of concept prototype test?

Failed test?

Who knows?

But I take Russian chest-beating claims, during a fake and openly outright rigged-'election' with a grain of salt.

But there is this:

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Scientists Have No Idea Why This Enriched Uranium Particle Was Floating Above Alaska

Ryan F. Mandelbaum

Feb 14, 2018, 4:00pm

On 3 August 2016, 7km above Alaska's Aleutian Islands, a research plane captured something mysterious: An atmospheric aerosol particle enriched with the kind of uranium used in nuclear fuel and bombs.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/02/scie ... ve-alaska/
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Maybe it's a bit 'open-cycle' ... nice.
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Unread post22 Mar 2018, 02:12

element1loop wrote:Maybe it's a bit 'open-cycle' ... nice.


The US tested a nuclear ramjet back in the 60s. The ramjet ran at 35,000lbs thrust for 5 minutes. (It was on a test stand. Yes it was a ramjet.)

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