Russian, Turkish Presidents to Hold Talks on S-400 System

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by airforces_freak » 09 Mar 2017, 04:47

Russian, Turkish Presidents to Hold Talks on S-400 System in Moscow
By ITARTASS -March 8, 2017
http://www.defencetalk.com/russian-turk ... cow-69409/

Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan will discuss the purchase of Russian-made military hardware, including S-400 (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) air defense missile systems, on March 9-10 in Moscow, Turkish presidential adviser Ilnur Cevik said.

Cevik made this statement in an interview with Rossiya 24 -.

“Economic issues, in particular, trade cooperation, interaction in the construction of a nuclear power plant and the sale of S-400 air defense missile systems, will be the first on the agenda,” the Turkish presidential adviser said.

According to Cevik, Turkey is unlikely to face problems within NATO if it purchases Russian-made S-400 surface-to-air missile systems as “many NATO member-states are using Russian-made weapons and defense systems too.”

Earlier, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed the information reported by Turkey’s NTV Channel and said that Erdogan would arrive in Russia on March 9-10.

The NTV Channel reported that the two presidents would hold a private meeting. A meeting of the Russian-Turkish High-Level Cooperation Council will be conducted as well. The sides will discuss a wide range of issues, including the delivery of S-400 air defense missile systems to Turkey.

Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said earlier that the two presidents might discuss the delivery of S-400 systems.


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by arian » 10 Mar 2017, 02:18

Hi there dumb troll. How's the liberation of Manbij going? It should be a piece of cake now that the long awaited and promised Turkish liberation of Aleppo and Mosul went so well. I hear the Russians are on the ground too.

Oh, they're on the Kurdish side you say? :doh:

Wait till the Ruskies find out about your Turkobrain railguns based on ballistic missile space-craft carriers out of Albania . They'll think twice about siding with the Kurds.

Poor Erdogan trolls. Must be the stupidest people on earth. Pulled by their nose by the Ruskies...just as I told you you would.


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by airforces_freak » 10 Mar 2017, 16:15

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Dunford Meets with Russian, Turkish Generals on Syria
Russia's Chief of Staff Gen. Valery Gerasimov attend a meeting in Antalya, Turkey, March 7, 2017. Pool
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Military.com | 7 Mar 2017 | by Richard Sisk

Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford held a military summit Tuesday with his Russian and Turkish counterparts to prevent clashes between their countries' forces and the factions they support in Syria, and to sort out the next steps in the anti-ISIS campaign.

The immediate concern is the tactical situation in and around the northeastern Syrian town of Manbij, where various and opposing forces supported by the U.S., Russia and Turkey have closed to "within hand grenade range of one another," according to Army Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend, commander of Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve.

The first tripartite talks involving Dunford; Gen. Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Russian general staff; and Gen. Hulusi Akar, chief of the Turkish general staff, were to continue Wednesday in Turkey's Mediterranean coastal city of Antalya, Turkish officials said.

Over the weekend, the U.S. moved a small number of troops and several Stryker combat vehicles into Manbij to support the Manbij Military Council, the mostly Syrian Arab group that has controlled the town since the ouster of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria last year.

The forces of the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, backed by Russian airpower and some ground elements, have now moved to the western outskirts of Manbij amid reports that the Manbij Military Council has agreed to cede several outlying villages to them.

At the same time, the Turkish military, allied with the Free Syrian Army militias, have been threatening to attack Manbij, where they suspect that elements of the Syrian Kurdish YPG, or People's Protection Units, still hold sway.

Turkish officials also fear that Assad's forces near Manbij could serve as a blocking force on the Turkish military to prevent its movement south to join an eventual assault on the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa.

In Antalya on Tuesday, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said that "very good coordination is needed" among the Russian, U.S. and Turkish forces "to clear Syria of all terrorist organizations."

"If coordination cannot be achieved, there is risk of a conflict that we do not desire. This is the main objective of the meeting that will continue today and tomorrow," Yildirim said
, according to Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper.

In a separate interview with Turkey's ATV television, Yildirim said he is particularly concerned about the potential for clashes in Manbij unless the various forces agreed to cooperate. In Manbij, "the U.S. is raising a flag, Russia is raising a flag nearby; things have turned into a flag competition," he said.

The Manbij dilemma emerged as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan prepared to visit Moscow on Thursday, accompanied by Defense Minister Fikri Isik for talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The military summit in Antalya was the second meeting of the Russian and U.S. military chiefs in less than a month. In mid-February, Dunford and Gerasimov met in Azerbaijan in what was described by the Pentagon as an effort to "prevent miscalculation and potential crisis" between their forces in Syria.

The meeting in Azerbaijan was the first face-to-face meeting between Dunford and Gerasimov since the two militaries cut off communications in the wake of Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has thus far expressed skepticism about cooperation with Russia, citing Russia's takeover of Crimea, its support of separatists in Ukraine and its indiscriminate bombing in Syria in support of Assad.

Last month, Mattis told a conference at NATO headquarters in Brussels that Russia would have to "prove itself" before the U.S. and Russian militaries could renew cooperation.

"We are not in a position right now to collaborate on the military level, but our political leaders will engage and try to find common ground," Mattis said, but the U.S. and NATO could only negotiate with Moscow "from a position of strength."

-- Richard Sisk can be reached at Richard.Sisk@Miitary.com.


And then this:



It must hurt ay. Remember Al-bab?


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by arian » 11 Mar 2017, 04:49

LOL. Turkobrain. Remember how the Ruskies were going to give you Aleppo.

For a troll, you're not even all that good. I hope they're not paying you a lot for spamming this forum. They're wasting good money if so.


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by airforces_freak » 11 Mar 2017, 09:45

arian wrote:LOL. Turkobrain. Remember how the Ruskies were going to give you Aleppo.

For a troll, you're not even all that good. I hope they're not paying you a lot for spamming this forum. They're wasting good money if so.


You are so brained washed by your hatred that you have become irrational. A theatre of war is not static but rather very fluid. Agreements are made, Agreements are broken. Strategies change as the dynamics of the situation change.

There is one reality though and that is that the puppet masters in Syria are Russia, Turkey, Iran and the US. The rest are expendable proxies.


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by arian » 12 Mar 2017, 01:24

airforces_freak wrote:
arian wrote:LOL. Turkobrain. Remember how the Ruskies were going to give you Aleppo.

For a troll, you're not even all that good. I hope they're not paying you a lot for spamming this forum. They're wasting good money if so.


You are so brained washed by your hatred that you have become irrational. A theatre of war is not static but rather very fluid. Agreements are made, Agreements are broken. Strategies change as the dynamics of the situation change.

There is one reality though and that is that the puppet masters in Syria are Russia, Turkey, Iran and the US. The rest are expendable proxies.


Turkobrain: Any minute now we're going to take Aleppo and Mosul with our nuclear-ballistic-cruise-missile-min-carriers-off-the-coast-of-Albania! You watch!

Everyone else: LOL. No.

2 months later: Turks f**ked

Everyone else: LOL. We told you so.

Turkobrain: But we got Al-Bab! Just as I said we would!

Everyone else: LOL. What a turkobrain.


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by airforces_freak » 13 Mar 2017, 03:57

You are very amusing to read Arian.


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by arian » 14 Mar 2017, 04:28

airforces_freak wrote:You are very amusing to read Arian.



Oh, to have such a low IQ as a Turkobrain.


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by vilters » 14 Mar 2017, 15:36

Don't worry arian.

Some time ago: "THE ALMIGHTY SUPERPOWERED GREAT DICTATOR" removed the freedom of press.

Now it is easy to brainwash the population.

It is impossible to discuss with a brainwashed people.


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by XanderCrews » 14 Mar 2017, 20:00

I put the Turkish military on par with the Iraqis in 1990.
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by KamenRiderBlade » 14 Mar 2017, 23:39

XanderCrews wrote:I put the Turkish military on par with the Iraqis in 1990.

We all know how the original Desert Storm ended in terms of results.


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by airforces_freak » 15 Mar 2017, 11:36

Turkey finalizing S-400 missile deal with Russia
http://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2017/02 ... 487785630/
By Ryan Maass | Feb. 22, 2017 at 1:44 PM

Feb. 22 (UPI) -- Defense leaders in Turkey are finalizing an agreement with the Kremlin to procure Russian-made S-400 missile defense systems.

The two countries have been in negotiations over the purchase since August 2016. Recent comments by Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu to local media quoted by the TASS news agency suggest the parties are close to reaching a deal.

"The S-400 talks are going on positively," he said.

The Daily Sabah reports Turkey's defense leadership says the goal of the purchase is to fulfill the country's missile defense needs while its own contractors work to produce a domestic solution.

"Turkey certainly needs a missile defense system and started a program with the aim of developing our domestically produced system," Turkish defense minister Fikri Isik said during a televised interview. "This program takes time, thus we have held negotiations with different countries to fulfill Turkey's urgent requirement and it seems as though Russia is the most suitable candidate for fulfilling the country's need at the moment."

Turkey's government has expressed interest in buying the S-400 since 2013, when it initially approached China for the missile system. Officials were forced to cancel the deal in November 2015 in response to NATO's disapproval.

"I believe that [NATO] will understand Turkey's decision [to purchase S-400s] and will empathize," Isik added. "Even some [other] NATO members have been using systems purchased from countries outside of NATO."

The S-400 missile system is an anti-aircraft solution developed by Russia's Almaz Central Design Bureau to replace aging S-300 platforms. The weapon is capable of firing several missile variants, including long-range, medium-range and short-range munitions.


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by arian » 16 Mar 2017, 00:30

You can deploy them in your new aircraft-carrier base in Aleppo.


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by airforces_freak » 16 Mar 2017, 13:11

Ankara Not to Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System © Sputnik/ Sergei Malgavko
MILITARY & INTELLIGENCE
13:01 16.03.2017(updated 15:07 16.03.2017)
S-400 missile system that Ankara plans to buy from Russia will not be integrated into NATO missile defense system, Turkish Defense Minister Fikri Işık said on Thursday.

"The Russian S-400 system will not be integrated into NATO missile defense system," Işık said.

On Wednesday, Turkish Defense Minister said that Ankara and Moscow made certain progress in talks on delivery of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems to Turkey, but the sides are still not ready to strike a deal.

Russia's Rostech CEO Sergei Chemezov earlier confirmed that Moscow and Ankara were in talks on deliveries of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey. The S-400 is Russia's next-generation air defense system, carrying three different types of missiles capable of destroying aerial targets at a short-to-extremely-long range. The weapon is capable of tracking and destroying all existing aerial targets, including ballistics and cruise missiles.

Turkey canceled last November its $4-billion tender for the procurement of components for a domestic missile defense system announced in 2009.

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by airforces_freak » 16 Mar 2017, 14:31

FM: Strengthening of Russia-Turkey relations not directed against third countries
http://www.azernews.az/region/110327.html
16 March 2017 16:44 (UTC+04:00)185

By Kamila Aliyeva

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the process of normalization of relations between Moscow and Ankara is not directed against third countries.

“Normalization of the Russian-Turkish relations should not be viewed as a process that may harm other countries,” he said, adding that Russia has no hidden agenda.

“We build no political and no economic alliances directed against third countries or adversely affecting any interests,” TASS cited him as saying. “In general, we are open for constructive and mutually respectful cooperation with all who express same readiness.”

The minister further said that getting the Russian-Turkish ties out of months-long crisis will enhance trust and mutual understanding in the region.

“We expect the gradual restoration of bilateral cooperation with Ankara to benefit peace, security and stability in Transcaucasia,” Lavrov stressed.

The minister went on to say that nevertheless, Moscow is ready to assist the negotiations of Armenia and Turkey when they begin and would welcome, in particular, the opening of the Armenian-Turkish border.

The minister reminded that the Russian Federation played an important role in thawing relations between Armenia and Turkey back in 2007-2009, but later the normalization process was stopped.

“However, it is of fundamental importance that the parties have demonstrated the ability to negotiate and make serious, responsible decisions and I am convinced that Armenia and Turkey are able to resolve the existing problems, as very much depends on them,” added Lavrov.

Lavrov noted that Russia will be ready to give Turkey and Armenia the most active assistance when Yerevan and Ankara sit at the negotiating table.

The tension in the relations of Turkey and Armenia is due to Armenia's so-called “genocide” claims against Turkey and occupation of Azerbaijani territories. That was the very reason due to which the Turkish-Armenian border is closed since early 1990s.

Turkey has repeatedly stressed that the Ankara-Yerevan normalization of ties is impossible without the liberation of the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Armenian armed forces occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan, including the Nagorno-Karabakh region and seven surrounding districts.

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Kamila Aliyeva is AzerNews’ staff journalist, follow her on Twitter: @Kami_Aliyeva


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