Russian Guided Weapons

AJAX · by **AJAX** » 11 Aug 2008, 22:29

All the coverage of the Georgian thing has gotten me thinking that I know next to nothing re: ruskie guided weapons, specifically, bombs. The US media is seemingly ALWAYS talking about precision guided munitions.

So, what's the scoop? Do they use them?

Global Security here I come.

StolichnayaStrafer · by **StolichnayaStrafer** » 12 Aug 2008, 17:49

They seem to have some decent air to ground/ship and antiradiation missiles. Some of it is more on the electro optical level, but you don't seem to see or hear about bombs such as the likes of ours. They sure LOVE their unguided rockets though!!! :lol:

AJAX · by **AJAX** » 12 Aug 2008, 19:37

StolichnayaStrafer wrote:They sure LOVE their unguided rockets though!!!

I've seen the news footage of the rockets coming off the truck and just cringed.

SpudmanWP · by **SpudmanWP** » 13 Aug 2008, 17:37

Here is a decent writeup of Russian guided weapons from APA:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Regional-PGM.html

StolichnayaStrafer · by **StolichnayaStrafer** » 14 Aug 2008, 00:11

The Mach 4.5 ramjet Kh-31P/MP/A/MA Krypton family of missiles includes anti-radiation, anti-shipping and anti-AWACS variants.

Of their stuff that I do know about, this one is a real eye opener for me- especially the part about "anti-AWACS". Between it's speed and range, that could be a pretty scary missile! :shock:

josh1971 · by **josh1971** » 15 Sep 2008, 08:24

SpudmanWP wrote:Here is a decent writeup of Russian guided weapons from APA:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Regional-PGM.html

You're right- that's a decent write up. Thanks for the link!

jb

sferrin · by **sferrin** » 24 Oct 2008, 21:53

StolichnayaStrafer wrote:
The Mach 4.5 ramjet Kh-31P/MP/A/MA Krypton family of missiles includes anti-radiation, anti-shipping and anti-AWACS variants.

Of their stuff that I do know about, this one is a real eye opener for me- especially the part about "anti-AWACS". Between it's speed and range, that could be a pretty scary missile!

You might find this interesting.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusr ... ma-31.html

skyhigh · by **skyhigh** » 12 May 2009, 13:45

Accuracy is the top priority for any bombardier.

That's where PGMs come into play.

Or you can just dive-bomb on your target the old-fashioned way in case the guidance system goes kaput.

Mechanic · by **Mechanic** » 12 May 2009, 16:06

skyhigh: Dive-bomb with modern attack aircraft? Well Stukas used 45 degree dive angle towards end of WW II, but I definitely would like to see SU-24M performing 80-90 degree dive angle bombing!

tank_top · by **tank_top** » 12 May 2009, 20:58

http://www.spacetoday.org/Satellites/GLONASS.html

I guess if you only wanted to get close the Russians would use GLONASS, but for accuracy they prefer optical :lmao:

http://www.glonass-ianc.rsa.ru/pls/html ... 2896::NO:::

It could be fairly accurate if they want to bomb some point in Russia. Lets wait and see if they can ever finish their constellation and keep it working. :cheers:

skyhigh · by **skyhigh** » 13 May 2009, 01:52

What, keep the satellites from being destroyed by ASATs launched from F-22 Raptors?

TC · by TC » 13 May 2009, 03:45

Really Skyhigh? Riddle me this: When did the F-22 suddenly gain a weapon that has been cancelled for 21 years?

thegreekness · by **thegreekness** » 13 May 2009, 04:17

uh...dude [skyhigh-on-something]...dive-bombing worked because the planes flew slow enough to aim, and their speed was low enough that it didnt really affect the bomb's tragectory aside from launch speed. Modern jets fly so fast that one tiny miscalculation would hurl the bomb way off target. Basic high-school physics...

Might work with an A-10.....
Why try it though? Tax-payers spent frillions getting us guided bombs, d@mmit! I say - Let them eat cake!

skyhigh · by **skyhigh** » 13 May 2009, 09:16

thegreekness wrote:Modern jets fly so fast that one tiny miscalculation would hurl the bomb way off target. Basic high-school physics...

Why not deploy speedbrakes and chop engine power while diving, just like a dive bomber, to control its rate of descent and not kamikaze onto the deck?

TC wrote:When did the F-22 suddenly gain a weapon that has been canceled for 21 years?

When the Air Force generals decided to commence anti-satellite operations.

The most deadly weapons the Russkies (and Chicoms) have in store for our Navy are the Raduga P-270 Moskit (SS-N-22 Sunburn) and Novator 3M54E Klub (SS-N-27 Sizzler) .

Whoa, these missiles are mad!

Trust me, you don't want to be on a ship waddling on the business end of these Sunburns or Sizzlers!

Like the Tomahawk and Harpoon, they can be air, sea, surface or underwater launched.

TC · by TC » 13 May 2009, 20:06

skyhigh wrote:When the Air Force generals decided to commence anti-satellite operations.

Really? When did that happen? Hasn't happened in the past couple of years that I've been back in the AF. It didn't happen during the 4 years I was working as a DOD civilian. It didn't happen during the 4 years before that, when I was in the Reserve.

Seriously kid, get your facts straight. This is getting rather annoying.