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Unread post21 Jul 2018, 16:40

Tempest: Inside The Fighter Jet Of The Future | Forces TV


Hahaha...yeah, right. I like how they have all these hand gestures to control the displays. Liked to see how that would work when pulling Gs.
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Unread post21 Jul 2018, 17:00

jetblast16 wrote:
Hahaha...yeah, right. I like how they have all these hand gestures to control the displays. Liked to see how that would work when pulling Gs.


The thing has a cranked delta wing design with no tail and no canards. It looks similar to the X-32's design which did not meet the US Navy's requirements for maneuverability which is why they redesigned it to a conventional tail and wing.

The two X-32 aircraft featured a delta wing design. However, eight months into construction of the concept demonstrator aircraft, the JSF's maneuverability and payload requirements were refined at the request of the Navy and Boeing's delta wing design fell short of the new targets. Engineers altered the aircraft's design with a conventional canted twin tail (narrowly beating out a Pelikan tail) that reduced weight and improved agility, but it was too late to change the aircraft. It was judged that they would be sufficient to demonstrate Boeing's technology.


The twin tails are also noticeably smaller, so unless any of our experts say otherwise, I think the maneuvering requirements for the thing will be quite modest. They may not be expecting to pull a lot of Gs in this thing.
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Unread post23 Jul 2018, 22:17

jetblast16 wrote:
Tempest: Inside The Fighter Jet Of The Future | Forces TV


Hahaha...yeah, right. I like how they have all these hand gestures to control the displays. Liked to see how that would work when pulling Gs.

You have to be really confident that the helmet will never glitch to get rid of all cockpit displays. Particularly when they can weigh as little as a few pounds.
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Unread post23 Jul 2018, 23:03

jetblast16 wrote: Liked to see how that would work when pulling Gs.

Voice control, in English, with a Texas accent. :roll:
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Unread post24 Jul 2018, 08:46

count_to_10 wrote:You have to be really confident that the helmet will never glitch to get rid of all cockpit displays. Particularly when they can weigh as little as a few pounds.



Well that seems unfair if we have absolute confidence in the F-35's HMD. I see no reason for the Tempest to have this kind of issue.
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 01:31



They should have called this thing Spitfire II
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 06:01

Nothing wrong with Tempest.... :twisted:
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 08:45

For those who don't know Tempest was a UK WWII fighter/bomber plane derived from the Hawker Typhoon so that's why history is repeating itself in this Typhoon-Tempest sequel naming.

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The Hawker Tempest is a British fighter aircraft primarily used by the Royal Air Force (RAF) in the Second World War. The Tempest, originally known as the Typhoon II, was an improved derivative of the Hawker Typhoon, intended to address the Typhoon's unexpected fall-off of performance at high altitude by replacing its wing with a thinner laminar flow design. Having diverged considerably from the Typhoon, it was chosen to rename the aircraft Tempest. The Tempest emerged as one of the most powerful fighters of World War II and was the fastest single-engine propeller-driven aircraft of the war at low altitude.

Upon entering service in 1944, the Tempest was used as a low-level interceptor, particularly against the V-1 flying bomb threat, and as a ground attack platform, in which it supported major events such as Operation Market Garden. Later, it successfully targeted the rail infrastructure in Germany and Luftwaffe aircraft on the ground, as well as countering such attacks by German fighters. The Tempest was effective in the low-level interception role, including against newly developed jet-propelled aircraft such as the Messerschmitt Me 262.
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 09:45

jetblast16 wrote:
They should have called this thing Spitfire II


I wonder if this would hurt the Luftwaffe. The Spitfire was responsible for a lot of their airmen's deaths. And is largely credited with winning the Battle of Britain (Although the Huricane had more kills)
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 14:56

I wonder if this would hurt the Luftwaffe.
Upon entering service in 1944, the Tempest was used as a low-level interceptor, particularly against the V-1 flying bomb threat, and as a ground attack platform, in which it supported major events such as Operation Market Garden. Later, it successfully targeted the rail infrastructure in Germany and Luftwaffe aircraft on the ground, as well as countering such attacks by German fighters. The Tempest was effective in the low-level interception role, including against newly developed jet-propelled aircraft such as the Messerschmitt Me 262.


Six of one, half a dozen of the other? I like Spitfire II; stealthy, possibly tail-less, super-cruiser, heading out over the North Atlantic, spittin' fire (rays of invisible heat aka laser energy) 8)
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 21:57

It could only be Spitfire II if it was also jaw-droppingly beautiful to see and hear.
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Unread post25 Jul 2018, 22:13

The Luftwaffe is not going to be buying it so the UK can name it anything it wants. You can see a business model method to this madness really as there are a lot of Typhoon customers in the Middle East who would like a stealthy successor without the Israelis vetoing it through their US connections if it was a US aircraft. As its innards and weapons would be derived from the last Typhoons there would also be synergy there from the investment these customers have already made. Without Franco/German requirements holding back development they can get this sorted at a time of their choosing to seamlessly take over for Typhoon replacements in the 2035+ time frame.
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Unread post31 Jul 2018, 18:03

Jim Smith had significant technical roles in the development of the UK’s leading military aviation programmes. From ASRAAM and Nimrod, to the JSF and Eurofighter Typhoon. We asked his opinion on what we can learn from looking at Britain’s next potential fighter, Project Tempest.


https://hushkit.net/2018/07/19/project- ... l-liaison/
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Unread post01 Aug 2018, 01:22

Kinda makes you wonder where the US is at on its 6th gen fighter programmes, PCA or whatever you like to call it.
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