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Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 26 Aug 2018, 21:24
by zerion
Russia's Krylov Research Center Unveils Light Aircraft Carrier Design

...The light multipurpose aircraft carrier is designed to ensure combat sustainability of the fleet’s forces and weapons which are engaged in hostilities in blue and green waters by fulfilling anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense tasks as well as by destroying air, surface, underwater and onshore targets," KGCN said in its documents.

The light aircraft carrier’s standard displacement is 37000 tons; normal displacement - 40500 tons and full displacement - 44000 tons. The length is 304 meters. The length on design waterline is 260 meters. The width is 78 meters. The width on design water line is 38 meters; sea gauge is 8.5 meters. Full speed is 28 knots; cruising speed is 16 knots. Range on 16 knots is 8000 miles; autonomous navigation on food supplies is 60 days. Aviation seaworthiness is up to 7 points. The main propulsion plant consists of a two-shaft gas turbine with partial electric propulsion. The capacity is 81000 KWT or 110000 horse-power. The electric power system consists of 3 power plants with a total capacity of 32MWATTS (6.3 kW/50Hz)...

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Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 26 Aug 2018, 23:20
by geforcerfx
Some light carriers with amphib capabilities would make a lot more sense for Russia. They can actually keep one deployed often while the others are in port and they can run them as heli carriers on some deployments until they can build up there training and air fleet for naval operations. They have no blue water amphib capabilities and lost that route after losing the mistrals. But Russia has almost no need for carrier most of the water they want to defend is within range of there air power launched from Russia.

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 00:45
by zerion
It’s about prestige not what makes sense.

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 01:46
by madrat
Let's create a scenario where that Russian battlegroup centered around aforementioned light carrier has to shut down a sovereign country's airbase in a strategic location. What would that country be that the battlegroup could actually succeed in the task, Latvia? Buenos Aires?

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 03:17
by element1loop
Putin could just buy some secondhand USMC LHDs and beg a sqn of F-35B and he's all ready to play Great-Powers again. :mrgreen:

#Does my sphere-of-influence look big in this?

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 03:45
by Corsair1963
zerion wrote:Russia's Krylov Research Center Unveils Light Aircraft Carrier Design

...The light multipurpose aircraft carrier is designed to ensure combat sustainability of the fleet’s forces and weapons which are engaged in hostilities in blue and green waters by fulfilling anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense tasks as well as by destroying air, surface, underwater and onshore targets," KGCN said in its documents.

The light aircraft carrier’s standard displacement is 37000 tons; normal displacement - 40500 tons and full displacement - 44000 tons. The length is 304 meters. The length on design waterline is 260 meters. The width is 78 meters. The width on design water line is 38 meters; sea gauge is 8.5 meters. Full speed is 28 knots; cruising speed is 16 knots. Range on 16 knots is 8000 miles; autonomous navigation on food supplies is 60 days. Aviation seaworthiness is up to 7 points. The main propulsion plant consists of a two-shaft gas turbine with partial electric propulsion. The capacity is 81000 KWT or 110000 horse-power. The electric power system consists of 3 power plants with a total capacity of 32MWATTS (6.3 kW/50Hz)...

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Honestly, even this design is to ambitious for Russia's pocket book!

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 04:34
by madrat
The model features Su-33 and MiG-29K. Ironically, that would meaning using the same carrier wings simultaneously on the four carriers.

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 05:30
by Corsair1963
What four carriers???

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 10:44
by madrat
They dream plan to have four of these things.

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 14:21
by hythelday
madrat wrote:They dream plan to have four of these things.


Correction: it was Krylov Bureau, the people who create these paper carriers, said "Russian Navy could use four of those".

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 27 Aug 2018, 14:52
by popcorn
hythelday wrote:
madrat wrote:They dream plan to have four of these things.


Correction: it was Krylov Bureau, the people who create these paper carriers, said "Russian Navy could use four of those".

Actually more advanced than paper carriers, they're now in plastic model stage of development. :mrgreen:

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 07:24
by Corsair1963
Russia is clearly doing its fair share of dreaming these days......... :shock:

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 20:38
by mixelflick
This is awesome!

Resurgent Russia, indeed...

* Four new supercarriers on the way
* Navalised SU-57 right around the corner
* SU-57 morphing into 6th gen fighter, entirely skipping the 5th generation the US is building
* Mig-31 hypersonic space plane coming soon
* Updated TU-160's being built
* PAK DA replacing those TU-160's, possibly before they're even delivered. The pace of modernization truly is astounding.
* Supersonic VTOL fighter in development (to fly from... where?)

I am completely stoked for these new ships and aircraft. Where can I go and see them? Farnborough?? RIAT? MAKS???

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 21:19
by zerion
mixelflick wrote:* Supersonic VTOL fighter in development (to fly from... where?)


From landing ships yet to be designed developed and built...but they definitely don’t want helicopter carriers, those are for the little people. Don’t worry they have a decade to get the ship done while they work on the jet.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... craft.html

Re: Russia to develop VTOL fighter

Unread postPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 21:25
by vilters
Does that Russian carrier comply to European emission norms? :devil:
Must be special stuff they are burning.

Ahaa, now I get it.. it is their ultra modern ADF system.
Their pilots need it to find the carrier. :devil: