India Taking another Look at the Super Hornet

Military aircraft - Post cold war aircraft, including for example B-2, Gripen, F-18E/F Super Hornet, Rafale, and Typhoon.
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Unread post08 Dec 2017, 15:54

geforcerfx wrote:
jakobs wrote:Oh boy, aren't you just gotta love future air shows with the F-35...


:lmao:

I keep imagining Mixel being one of those guys arguing that if you just added X, Y & Z then the Super-amazing-OVer power-hardcore- MeGa tomcat would dominate the skys in 2100.


Mixel will enjoy future airshows with the F-35, because it comes in 3 different flavors and has capabilities that are only now coming to be appreciated. He also values the fact it has world beating performance and delivers a clear edge to the warfighter. Something no F-18 variant has (or will ever have).

Mix really isn't big on new aircraft masquerading as simple extensions of a current airframe (i.e. the Super Hornet). He much prefers clean sheet designs.
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Unread post08 Dec 2017, 16:46

I think the hornet/SH pilots probably wouldn't appreciate being told that they are useless and they're flying in deathtraps. Sure, the SH is not the future, but it and it's pilots are still very valuable as of now.
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Unread post21 Jan 2018, 22:05

I think someone is confused.

Lockheed Martin Plans To Make F-35 Fighter Jets In India

http://www.ibtimes.com/lockheed-martin- ... ia-2643489
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Unread post21 Jan 2018, 23:54

zerion wrote:I think someone is confused.

Lockheed Martin Plans To Make F-35 Fighter Jets In India

http://www.ibtimes.com/lockheed-martin- ... ia-2643489


The writer's bio.

AYUSHMAN BASU
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Covers viral news. A Political Science graduate from Delhi University. Masters in Interactive Journalism from City, University of London. Apart from US news, likes to write on sports (especially regarding the Premier League and favorite club Chelsea FC) and Indian politics and social issues.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 00:11

zerion wrote:I think someone is confused.

Lockheed Martin Plans To Make F-35 Fighter Jets In India

http://www.ibtimes.com/lockheed-martin- ... ia-2643489



Lol
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 01:08

Typical Indian stronkism. I remember indian news outlets heralding India was going to get hundreds of Avengers armed with lasers. "In your face, Pakistan!" was the subliminal message. In the end those turned out to be MQ-9s, and now I read those are unarmed too? :oops:
Custom F-35 based fighter built in India has even less chances to become a reality than Tejas maturing into a actual fighter plane.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 01:27

hythelday wrote:Typical Indian stronkism. I remember indian news outlets heralding India was going to get hundreds of Avengers armed with lasers. "In your face, Pakistan!" was the subliminal message. In the end those turned out to be MQ-9s, and now I read those are unarmed too? :oops:
Custom F-35 based fighter built in India has even less chances to become a reality than Tejas maturing into a actual fighter plane.


Reapers can only be armed with the explicit consent of the US congress (or the state department)

At least I've been told so when I learned Italy acquired MQ 9s back in 2009 (or 2010 don't remember)
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 02:11

zerion wrote:I think someone is confused.

Lockheed Martin Plans To Make F-35 Fighter Jets In India

http://www.ibtimes.com/lockheed-martin- ... ia-2643489


No.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 02:37

Seems to be the wrong thread as I tot this is a SH thread.

I seriously doubt that India would have the political will to contribute funds to buy F-35s in sufficient numbers that would allow LM to set up an F-35 production line in India. They don't even have enough for the SEF.

Its high risk to go straight to a 5th gen esp with India's crash rates and maintenance history. Every F-35 user today and projected has progressed from US 4th gen jets with similar fighter philosophies, service structures etc. The only experience India has is with the Harrier (which it no longer operates). And that opinion is already taking into account that the F-35 is probably incredibly easy to fly...

The report of LM "setting up" anything is a red herring. 10 years from now, it will still be in planning.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 07:20

I believe that since F-16 Block 70 was mentioned this is what the talk was about. This Vivek fella said Indian Viper will feature "5th gen avionics" and other features LM learned while developing F-22, F-35. Local production is a requirement in their light fighter comp, where F-16 is actually competing against Gripen. Writer/journalist got carried away (or intentionally) and misinterprited that as "custom F-35" built in India and sourcing local tech, no less.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 10:46

hythelday wrote:I believe that since F-16 Block 70 was mentioned this is what the talk was about. This Vivek fella said Indian Viper will feature "5th gen avionics" and other features LM learned while developing F-22, F-35. Local production is a requirement in their light fighter comp, where F-16 is actually competing against Gripen. Writer/journalist got carried away (or intentionally) and misinterprited that as "custom F-35" built in India and sourcing local tech, no less.


If referring to the F-16, then I would link to the earlier posts on this subject which still applies today.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 10:55

I thought the plan to buy single-engined jets from abroad had been shelved and the money would be spent on LCA?
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 15:19

popcorn wrote:I thought the plan to buy single-engined jets from abroad had been shelved and the money would be spent on LCA?



If you don't like India's decision just give it a year or two and there will be a new decision
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 19:54

I put it here because I was in a hurry and this was the first India thread I ran into. I consider it more satire than a serious F-35/F-16 article so I wasn't too worried about it.
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Unread post22 Jan 2018, 22:52

Indian procurement makes Canada look like world class professionals.
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